Fuck Skrit, if the asshole had a life he would not be spending time with us. Pass the fucker an Eggnog and just get used to his sense of humor. You are not going to offend him. He just doesne’t give a shit. He’s too fucking well rounded and completely gets the fact that he is on the Internet and not talking to anyone who is going to have any kind of impact at all on his daily existence. If he has something important to tell you, my guess is that he will drop the persona and send you a PM.
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Oh boy! Fuckin eggnog!
I take umbrage(or is it cabbage?) with that. Everyfuckingthing I say or write is “something important”…persona? Mwah? Hmmm. I’m not really sure what all of that means, cause, you know, I’m just part of the “group think”.
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Yep! I expected nothing less.
Persona? Huh? Is that like some sort of hot and humid handbag? And why would Skrit have one? Maybe it keeps his worms warm and moist? Didn’t know they made such things. Even better, why would he want to drop it just to tell me something? Seems to me something like that might break if you drop it. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for him breaking his persona. I’d feel really bad about that. I swear, Cog, sometimes you don’t make any sense at all.
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Oh, that’s right. You haven’t had my Nog yet. Hmmm… 
… Well, per policy, your first time has to be the special “Newbie Batch”. Couple of folks around here learned the hard way that you can’t start off with the regular blend. Gotta work your way up to it. If you’ve been wondering why there are burn marks on the toilet seat, now you know. Anyway…
Unfortunately, I’m out of Newbie Batch right now. But I’ll see if I can whip up a small serving over the next few days… … Although, it may be a bitch trying to find any anamita muscaria grub worms this time of year. But, hey, I’ll see what I can do. If all else fails, battery acid makes an acceptable substitute, as long as I use enough lye to properly dilute it.
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Does it have liquor in it?
I forget some of the members haven’t been here to taste Tin’s eggnog …
(Eyes rolling back in head, light groan from down low, lips quivering in anticipation…) I uh would probably… I mean yeah that would be real nice of you if uh you know, maybe you could think about adding some cumquat juice, if it wouldn’t, you know, insult you or anything…
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Sooo glad I could accommodate.
Uhhhhh… Welllll… Uh, if it makes you feel better referring to it as “liquor”, then, uh, sure. Uh-huh. Okay.
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@Tia_Thompson Hi Tia, have you had a chance to check with your friend?
Well, I guess we were too much for her. xD
She has been polite to us, and to be honest treated us with more respect than we have to her.
If anything, she is guilty of fuzzy and imprecise thinking. And that applies to her timing. She did state she was going to be away for … ? A day, a month, year? Only she has any idea of her intended time frame, and failed to convey any expectations on when.
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Fuzzy, imprecise, and blind as a frigging coelacanth. Dishonestly ignoring fact and unwilling to stick to an issue so that she can push her own brand of BS under the guise of “Being Nice.” She treated you well… No! Not really.
Ooooo… Uh, I hate to say it, Dave, but I’m afraid I have to disagree with your assessment on that. Sure, she may have presented an “image” of politeness, but that does not mean she was treating us with respect. Especially during the last couple of weeks leading up to her departure. I admit that when I first started discussions with her, she actually seemed legit. She showed what appeared to be a sincere interest in learning. Therefore, I was genuinely making an effort to respond to her without my usual sarcasm. However, she ended up “slipping” a couple of times and drawing attention to some odd inconsistencies about the things she was telling us. (My own evaluation, by the way.) And when we began to question her about them and call her out on some of her more blatantly evasive behavior, her charade started to crumble. It was only then that I began to use my “methods” in an attempt to draw her further out from behind her mask. Bottom line is, she was not being respectful. She started intentionally toying with us, and then played the victim when caught doing so. Again, just my personal observations and opinion.
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Theists tend to don this facade of congeniality that at its core is pure disregard for authenticity.
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I haven’t waded through the majority of posts on this thread, but I shall take note of the following …
One. Whenever I see someone claim that Josephus was a “contemporary” of the disciples, I find myself filled with the need to suppress a lot of dark, sardonic laughter. The reason for this?
Simple. Let’s assume that the crucifixion actually took place. The date for this event is routinely cited as 33 CE. Josephus wasn’t even BORN until four years later, in 37 CE.
This idea that someone who wasn’t even BORN until four years after the crucifixion constitutes a “contemporary” of the disciples, is a notion only mythology fanboys could possibly entertain. The work he wrote that is cited by the usual suspects as a “contemporary” account of the events in question, namely The Antiquities of the Jews, wasn’t written until 94 CE, fully sixty one years afterwards.
Incidentally, this work of Josephus contains an assertion that is known to be wrong by every properly trained historian - namely, that Abraham allegedly taught science to the Egyptians, who then taught the Greeks in turn. This is, quite simply, a fabrication. If this assertion wasn’t a complete fabrication, then the Jews should have been the leading scientific civilisation of Classical Antiquity. They weren’t.
As for William Lane Craig, he openly admitted, when challenged on the matter, that no amount of real world data would stop him from treating his favourite mythology as fact, and by doing so, revealed that like so many of his ilk, his modus operandi can be summed up as “if reality and my favourite mythology differ, then reality is wrong and my favourite mythology is right”.
Two. Meanwhile, addressing this:
Ahem, science isn’t a matter of “belief”, it;s a matter of evidence and understanding, which is why it’s been so rampantly successful, A part of that success has consisted of:
[1] Alighting upon vast classes of entities and interactions, that the authors of mythologies were incapable of even fantasising about;
[2] Placing said vast classes of entities and interactions into usefully predictive quantitative frameworks of knowledge, of a sort that the authors of mythologies would have regarded as magic;
[3] Demonstrating that testable natural processes are sufficient to account for the vast body of observational data obtained over the past 350 years, and as a corollary, that merely asserted cartoon magic men from mythologies are superfluous to requirements and irrelevant.
Three. Meanwhile, addressing the question of whether or not the “Jesus character” actually existed, well, quite simply, mythologies are not written in a vacuum. Indeed, one of the habits repeatedly observed occurring among authors thereof, is the fabrication of lavishly embellished stories, centred upon some real events or persons, but which are inflated beyond recognition except to relevant trained scholars. It is perfectly reasonable to assume that one or more actual human beings existed, upon which the “Jesus character” is based, not least because we have historical data informing, us that the business of being an apocalyptic preacher in first-century Judea, was something of a cottage industry at that time and place.
But tracking down the actual individual(s) upon which this character is based, is of course fraught with difficulties, because relevant records allowing said identification simply do not exist. We also have to factor in to the equation, that followers of any of these figures that did exist, had a vested interest in inflating the historical significance thereof.
However, even if we discovered overnight genuine primary documents resolving this vast epistemological deficit, none of those documents would add an atom of support to any of the fantastic supernatural assertions about this character.
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