I wrote this several days ago, now that we’re back up:
These are two different things. Science is a branch of study focusing on quantifying anything objectively we can. The scientific method is an epistemology, which is a branch of philosophy. Philosophy is what underlines our entire system of knowledge with things likes science, language, etc being branches off of that. Any PhD is a doctorate in philosophy.
Our shared goal is knowledge; to know truth. Epistemology is what we use for that. Beings like god are unfalsifiable, because they cannot be measured or falsified. They are easy to make up, and impossible to prove. This is why there are over 4000 religions. Falsifiability was only added to the scientific method in the 20th century, but it is a very important addition because it keeps people from making things up.
Notice that we never claimed that we know god doesn’t exist as this would be essentially saying that we could falsify something that is unfalsifiable. The problem is that nobody can justify belief in something that is unfalsifiable without using logical fallacies. If they are using logical fallacies to justify a belief then they don’t actually know. Once again epistemology + facts get us to knowledge. So if there is a flaw in either, then we don’t know.
This takes us to religion. We have people who claim to know that god exists. That is a scientific, objective claim. If they don’t show us how they know, we don’t assume that god doesn’t exist, we assume they are making it up. It is a subtle distinction, but key. We assume that they did not go from ignorance to knowledge, but are still at ignorance. The problem is that they think they are at knowledge.
All religions require faith to operate. Faith is also an epistemology, which is defined as “belief without proof”. The problem is that it can’t get us to knowledge. It attempts to make knowledge claims when it is really a function of will. Faith is really just a mechanism people use to believe whatever they want. It has been my experience that religious people like to dance between faith and scientific proof when one gets knocked down.
Another big issue is that god is not the only unfalsifiable thing that religious people believe in. Christians, for example, believe that god not only exists, but is male, all powerful, can know the future, knowingly created a legal system (sin) where he would have had to know that it would involve impregnating a married teenager (Mary) and going on a suicide mission. This is all so that some invisible organ we all have, instead of going to this loving god’s ultimate torture destination, can instead go to a blissful, happy alternate dimension if we just believe and say a few magic words. All of these things are unfalsifiable, people believe them not because there is objective evidence, but because they want to. Religious people like to focus on god, but they believe, on faith, a bunch of other stuff like this too.
How do we know the rich, Nigerian uncle is real?