Rarely do I post a link discussing what we’ve been talking about (in a smaller measure)… however, if you’re game, just listen…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vugiyXKn-ew
I have been enjoying that you actually write your own thoughts. You have no idea how many threads or posts by visiting theists are just “paste/copy”…and then 
disappear.
I’m going to preface this by saying that this is part of a conversation that how to do with finding factoids out about history. I had an example that had to do with the book of Job. I’m well aware of the controversy surrounding it’s authenticity. It’s very long and not anywhere near finished. but it provides a lot of structural information about a biblical story and some historical stuff. if anyone wants to look it up there’s names and stuff so that it is easier. You can go look up the Stella’s and the inscriptions yourself and on your own time.
According to the King James Bible, the three “friends” that sat down with Job were named: Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad, the Shuhite, and Zophar, the Naamathite. Job 2:11
I just so happened to be reading the Greek Septuagint and listening to the King James Version on audio and found what appeared to be a discrepancy: Job 2:11 of the Greek Septuagint text reads as follows:
Now his three friends having heard of all the evil that was come upon him, came to him each from his own country: Eliphaz, the king of the Thaemans, Baldad, the Sovereign of the Saucheans, and Sophar, king of the Minaeans.
I had never heard of the “friends” of Job being kings. If three kings sit down with a third man and mourn for 7 days without eating or talking, who is that fourth man?
Certainly he is not a commoner. Job had to be someone important too! This one verse changed the scope of the story for me, and what seemed like a discrepancy made me investigate it.
Teman (Idumea, Edom, Yemen, Yaman) was an ancient town of Arabia Petraea in the southern end of the Arabian Peninsula. Yemenite Jews were called Temanim in Hebrew.
Teman, the city was named after Eliphaz’s son Teman.
The Bible states that Eliphaz is Esau’s firstborn son by his Canaanite wife, Basemath (Adah) the daughter of Elon, the Hittite. Genesis 36:1-4
The Canaanites had some pretty atrocious practices. They even would burn their own children alive as burnt offerings (Jeremiah 19:5) I don’t even want to imagine what a few generations of people who thought roasting their children was holy.
The Hittites, in particular went around worshipping rocks as manifestation of deity. Genesis 26:34,35 relates that Esau’s wives gave his parents, Isaac and Rebekah great anxiety over their practices.
So, Esau married a third wife that did not believe in these ways or follow these practices named Mahalath. She was the daughter of Ishmael, the first born son of the patriarch Abraham and his Egyptian wife, Hagar.
The second son of Esau and his accepted wife, Mahalath was Reuel. Reuel was the father of an Edomite chief of Ethiopia named, Zerah Genesis 36:17. Zerah was the son of Tamar and Judah. Zerah was also the father of Jobab ben Zerah (Job) Genesis 36:33
So, Eliphaz was Job’s half-grandfather and Esau’s firstborn son, but Job was descended from a line that was acceptable to both Edomites and the Hebrews.
That is why Yemenite Jews are called true Arabs.
The trade route was the life blood of the ancient world. If one thinks of the internet as an invisible extension-it still is. In the ancient word, if you did not have some connection to trade, you could and probably would die.
Kuntillet Ajrud, is in north Sinai; carbon-14 dating indicates occupation in the period 801-770 BCE, and the texts may have been written c.800 BCE.
As a perennial water source in this arid region it constituted an important station on an ancient trade route connecting the Gulf of Aqaba (an inlet of the Red Sea) and the Mediterranean, and was in addition located only 50 kilometers from the major oasis of Kadesh Barnea.
Kuntillet Ajrud was excavated in 1975/76 by Tel Aviv University archaeologist Ze’ev Meshel, although the report wasn’t published until 2002.The fortress-like main building contained various paintings and inscriptions on the walls and on two large water-jars (pithoi), one found in each room. Testing revealed that pots from the site revealed clay exclusive to Jerusalem was used to make items found very far away.
The paintings on the pithoi show various animals, stylised trees, and human figures, some of which may represent deities.
The iconography is entirely Syrian/Phoenician and lacks any connection to the Egyptian models commonly found in Iron Age IIB Israel art.
Painting on a jar found at Kuntillet Ajrud, under the inscription “Yahweh of Samaria and his Asherah”
The inscriptions are mostly in early Hebrew with some in Phoenician script. Many are religious in nature, invoking Yahweh, El and Baal. Two inscriptions include the phrases “Yahweh of Samaria and his Asherah” and “Yahweh of Teman and his Asherah.”
People that worshipped Baal practiced child sacrifice also, a practice that God hates.
I mention this because I never realized it, and it is very important to understanding the story and finding historical evidences to support what you are reading in the Bible. Remember the trade routes. They make their silent influence known throughout the Bible.
When Bela son of Beor (Peor) died, Jobab moved from Bozrah in Syria to Uz (Ausis, between Idumea (Edom) and Arabia) to be king in his stead. Genesis 36:33. (Ancient Bosra)
The Shuhites were the Sabeans. The Sabeans, Seba are the people of Sheba. Sheba was the son of Joktan and the grandson of Eber. (Genesis 10:28) Most people know about the Queen of Sheba in the time of Solomon. The Yemeni capital of Sheba was Marib. Marib was a popular stop because of its abundant spices.
It makes a lot more sense to me now why the Queen of Sheba would travel all the way from her capital in Ethiopia to Jerusalem with a caravan of camels bearing a huge amount of stones, gold, and spices which she exchanged with King Solomon before returning to Ethiopia (1Kings 10:1,10, ii Chronicles 9:1-9) She was solidifying trade route alliances. Jerusalem and Axum were important trade stops. After receiving its goods from Ethiopia and Yemen via the ports in southern Yemen, Somalia, also traded with the entire world
Ethiopia had several goods that were exclusive to the area, particularly the type of incense that was used in almost every sort of religious ritual. Looking up what goods, types of stone, textiles, and pottery styles, architecture, jewelry, written language, and coins are a good way of finding historical locations and people
The Bible also tells us that the descendants of Jokshan lived a maurading lifestyle in the country bordering Job. (Ezekiel 38:13)
Seba in Yemen
The Book of Job 1:13-15, tells us that the Sabeans attacked and killed Job’s servants and stole his life stock, leaving just one witness to alive to tell Job.
Bildad, the Yemenite sovereign of Sheba was one of Job’s “friends”. He was a descendant of Shuah, the son of Abraham and Keturah (Genesis 25:1)
As sovereign of the Sabeans, he would have known of what happened to Job at the hand of his own people. The Book of Job tells us in the first chapter that Job was a righteous man according to God.
Even so, Bildad was still the first person to attribute Job’s calamity to the wickedness, citing his deceased children as the cause, knowing that his own men had done part of the injury that befell Job. (Job 8:4)
According to the Book of Job, Teman (the kingdom that was ruled by Jobab’s half-grandfather Eliphaz) controlled Saba.
Eliphaz, Job’s grandather was the first person to call Job a liar, deserving of what befell him. He even said a spirit talked to him in the night and condemned Job, knowing all-the-while that the robbing and killing committed against Job were done under his ultimate jurisdiction.
Job 2:11 of the Greek Septuagint (LXX), calls the third “friend”: Sophar, king of the Mineans.
The Mineans were the inhabitants of the kingdom of Mai’in. Ma’in was under the control of Saba: The same people that had stolen from Job and killed his servants. So, Mai’in was controlled by Saba, who was controlled by Saba, who was controlled by the king of Teman: Job’s half-grandfather, Eliphaz.
The Minean (Mai’in) people were one of four ancient Yemeni factions according to the Greek polymath and historian Eratosthenes (276-195/194 BC)
The others were the Sabeans (Marib), Hadramites (capital city of Shabwa), and Qatabanians (Timna).
(Temanite inscription
So, the three royal “friends” of Job were actually relatives that were not friendly at all.
It makes more sense why Job would proclaim to them:
Neither will your reproof cause me to cease my words, for neither will I endure the sound of your speech. Even because you attack the fatherless and insult your friend. (Job 6:26,27)
The capital cities of these factions were located near to each other instead of in the center of the states, unlike modern capital cities. This is because the factions acted as a tribal confederacy.
The Minean people were notable for their trade influence. Their rule reached as far as Dedan and their trade influence was even seen on the Aegean Sea. Incriptions found at Qanawu mention several major caravan stations along the trade route, including Yathrib (Medina, one of Islam’s three holiest cities) and Gaza.
The Minean king and his council were the only one involved with lawmaking. In Ma’in, the council of elders represented the priesthood as well as families of high social class. The kings were not just ruler, they were priest kings. The Minaeans were divided into groups of various sizes, led by a very high official called the kabīr, who was in charge of one or sometimes all of the trading posts.
Job 6:15- My nearest relations have not regarded me; they have passed me by like a failing brook, or like a wave.
They who used to reverence me, now have come against me like snow or congealed ice.
When it has melted at the approach of heat, it is not known what it was.
Thus I also have been deserted of all; and am ruined an am become an outcast.
Behold the Temanites, ye that mark the paths of the Sabeans.
And the Brooklyn Bridge was mentioned in Spiderman comics and movies. Which is more historically accurate?
I prefer Lord of the Rings.
Is this a copy and paste? Can you link your source materials.
I wrote whatever was not scripture or history and compiled the information. All the names are there for you to look up yourself. If you know what you’re looking for you can find everything on Google. Rather than cite some page that happens to be older than anyone wants it to be. Just go check it out. You seem super smart and also interested in history. it should be fun
These aren’t just mentions of places, these are historical pieces of information that color the biblical narrative of job. The information isn’t known unless you look for it. But I like Spider-Man that was funny.
Lord of the rings is also pretty fun
Or
Obviously 
you can get into detail on subjects you find interesting.
Whether you used this site or not YOU’VE displayed a wonderful talent for research 
. Any assumptions I had for your time and ability have been swiftly removed by a demonstration. This is great 
… that same site I used to “research” your research (as you so kindly refused sources???)
The best it could come up with when I searched those “10 Commandments” …
Thanks! I really want to thank you and some of the others even the less-than-friendly ones. Because of all the inquiries I’ve decided to contact a neuroscientist about what we’ve been experiencing.
I’m very nervous about it because of his past experience with hospitals and doctors, but I’m also really excited.
I wasn’t lying to y’all. Everything I posted about is actually happening. You can take that information or leave it.
I’m going to get empirical evidence that everyone can accept.
In the meantime… I’ve talked to Josh about you guys. He just laughs when I ask him if he wants to talk to you but I think he’s interested.
some things he can do that don’t directlytouch the concept of God but still touches what the scientific community would consider supernatural or at the least…very unusual such as seeing the color of tone.
He can tell things about people when they talk. At least their emotional status.
He has colors for these states much like a mood ring:
Blue is content
Red is nervous, anxious, or worried
Green means something is about to wear out. he particularly means this when the batteries and things are about to die but you or I still can’t hear it yet. He also applies this to people. He usually refers to me as green at the end of the night when I am tired.
Brown is when I’m not doing anything special. It’s sort of a form of an accurate insult.
Black means something is broken beyond repair
white and gold are very special and I’ve only heard him use those terms a small handful of time in his entire life.
His ability to do that is not limited to me and his material things.
He can and has done that with whatever and whoever he wants.
When I get whatever reports or whatever paperwork that I will from this interaction I’d like to post the results here if that’s okay.
I’m going to watch the video now.
Seriously… neuroscience is interested in identifying or studying “brains” 
. University Hospitals are the best to contact. There are students and doctors 
that would kill to write a paper and have it peer reviewed!
I am not doing your research for you. I do not have to prove (or disprove) your claim, that is the burden of the one making the claim.
That’s exactly what we’re doing! I don’t know about the peer-reviewed articles that come after, but we’ll have the actual research.
I wasn’t asking you to do the research although it’s really fascinating. I’m a dork though
Someone asked about the validity of Job , in a response to another post, and I said that I would post something about it.
I wasn’t trying to prove or disprove anything.
I was just trying to give whoever it was the information they needed to get started looking on it if they didn’t believe it.
You’re welcome to do the same or not.
I run the risk of either sounding redundant or not giving enough information if I don’t post the same thing over and over again.
I have a feeling I’m going to make somebody irritated no matter what I do.
Just know that that’s not my intention.
If you’d like me to post more stuff about Job, I will.
I had just been writing the post from about 2:00 a.m. my children had woken up and I needed to take care of greet them.
I knew if I didn’t post it I wouldn’t really get a chance to until much later.
Take your time, a forum does not have the priority of children.
I am an atheist, because I have not been convinced of a god. Additionally, I do not refer to the bible as any source of reference. I also operate under the same standards of evidence as any court of law. Witnesses, evidence, the ability to cross-examine, hearsay not admitted.
So while I sense your sincerity, I may be a little more difficult to convince. But please note, my mind is not closed.
I’d bet everything I own against a penny that you won’t in fact do this.
That does not fit the timeline presented in the Old Testament. The story of Job takes place before the fictional Exodus associated with the character Moses; like 700 years before the date you cited. It is part of the fictional origin story of the Jewish people.
Do you really want an education? I doubt it. Let’s see if you have learned anything; earlier you spoke about female ions:
And your pre suppositional and confirmation based conclusions. sigh.
Did you actually research the “Historical Method” before you wrote that shit ton of suppositin and fantasy?
