Atheist Censorship

Off you go then present it, or do you still imagine a bare claim using an irrational whataboutism argument is at all compelling?

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Oh, you meant metaphysical existence… well… anything is possible metaphysically. I think we already covered this. Even multi-colored, giraffe farts.

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Excellent selective quote mining I must say…I’m not sure how you can justify saying

Obviously that statement is not true. If anything is possible, then that must include the possibility of nothing being possible, and here we are, back on the fucking merry-go-round again…stop it…

Edit to watch my cat chase it’s tail

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Hmmm, notwithstanding your Pavlovian reference, the drooling dog and the dying cat may be an example of quantum entanglement, given the impossibility of proving the non-existence of the cat to begin with, and the absence of evidentiary support for the “barking dog syndrome”.
As far as to whether or not anyone cares, well you know that “the atheist” is incapable of moral behaviours, so there’s that…

Edit to throw myself a bone

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Ahhh yes. But what of the impossibility of the impossible. While something may be possibly impossible to your limited realm of thinking in one paradigm, it does not follow, it is limited in all paradigms. So even while the possibly impossible is possible in one instance, it does not negate the possibility of everything being possible. In fact, it supports the idea. If all possibilities are possible including the impossibility of all possibilities being possible, it supports the assertion ‘All things are possible.’ All possibilities are equally possible.

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Sure, go with that. That will serve you well in the “ward”.
Now that you have firmly planted yourself on a Möbius strip, do go find a book of M.C. Escher and one of Salvador Dali and repeat ad nauseam
All possibilities are possible…then slap yourself.
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Edit (Here, allow me)

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Quick question, if I may. If one can IMAGINE the impossible, could that possibly mean that the impossible could possibly be possible?

(Edit to dream the impossible dream.)

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It’s a good thing possibility requires demonstration or this could be an impossible conversation.

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WHAT?
20 characters.

An impossible conversation. A conversation that is impossible to have in all possible worlds which is made possible by the possibility of the impossible being completely possible.

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Okay, that makes sense.

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I live in a country where gun ownership is not the norm however, a friend told me that back when they made gun ownership a right, it took maybe 30 seconds to load a musket where now…

Kinda support what you’re saying, I guess.

UK Atheist

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Thank you for seeing my side of it.

It took 30 seconds to load a musket for a member of the armed forces, and it took 30 seconds to load a musket for the police. Give store owners and citizens back their property rights, start enforcing the gun laws we have in place, and make it clear to the government that they work for us, not us for them. We are overtaxed, over regulated, and over policed. Our medical system is a joke. Our political system is corrupt. Our media is now so polarized we can not get ‘real news,’ without doing actual research. We call ourselves the land of the free. Politically we rank 32 out of 40 globally. Our civil liberties rank 51 out of 60. https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-states/freedom-world/2022

Gun rights were given to American citizens, so they could form militias. This is the truth of our system of government, for the people and by the people in each state… Not for the national government and by the national government. " It provides: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” This is about the freedom and independence of each state in the Union of the USA. It’s about keeping the government working for the people and not the people in fear of the government.

I am completely opposed to the disarming of American citizens. If the government wants to take guns from the people, they should have to do it by force. That is the way the system was set up. America is failing and guns are not the issue. People are angry.

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Which U.S. citizens? All of them? If so, then I think you’ve not been listening very well to the folks who want gun control.

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Obviously not. I completely agree with the enforcement of gun laws. Background checks and safety regulations. I see no problem in limiting a clip size to 15 rounds, for example. I see no problems in demanding adequate protection from children in a home. Trigger locks and gun safes are the hallmark of any responsible gun owner. So we probably don’t disagree as much as it seems. I am certainly pro “Use a gun, go to jail.” And, anyone using a gun in a crime should forever lose their right to own a gun in the future. Stupid decisions lead to stupid consequences. I would include Police Officers in this mix. A Cop who draws his gun in violation of the Law, would lose his right to carry a gun. Just like a criminal - forever. The protection we afford the police is insane. Their special qualified immunity needs to be stripped from them, and they need to be held to a higher standard, not a lower standard.

What we do not have in America is a professional police force. We pay professional salaries officers with GEDs. This is insane. “Most agencies expect officers to have a high school diploma or GED at a minimum.” These people do not have the life experience or the education to be dealing with the public. They give them 6 months training in an academy and then turn them lose on the public.
https://www.discoverpolicing.org/about-policing/basic-requirements/

FYI - I started Police Academy Training at Golden West College in Huntington Beach CA. My classes in profiling and how to write tickes for violations caused me to look for other majors. I could not get myself to think like a cop. When a cop pulls over a car for a violation, he notices 3 or 4 violations. He only writes the driver up for the one violation because he suspects the driver may be holding drugs at some point, and he wants to pull him over again. This is good policing. Always put the torture cuffs on too tight at first. When the victim pleads for you to loosen them. First object, but then… You loosen them to gain compliance and look like a good guy. Give conflicting commands on purpose. (Drill sargents in the military do this to recruits. It creates a pathological double bind.) ‘Get your license.’ Man reaches for the glove box. ‘Freeze, MF, what are you reaching for.’ ‘You told me to…’ ‘You don’t move unless I tell you to move.’ ‘But you told me to…’ ‘Are you arguing with me…’ ‘Officer you said…’ ‘Shut up and put your hands on the steering wheel.’ 'Pull out the torture cuffs, pull driver out of the car, reaching for something in the car during the traffic stop. This is what I was being trained to do. I learned how to put people against walls with pain compliance techniques. How to approach cars, where to find drugs, and I heard a lot of war stories.

I took one semester of classes and dropped out.

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I guess I’m fortunate to live in a city where that isn’t the case.

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Excellent! Unfortunately, the fucking NRA is a more powerful law maker than any elected representative.

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I was taught none of that.

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Why does a society need militia when it has a military? Why do people need military capable firearms able to fire huge magazines of bullets in just a few seconds instead of handguns? Few other civilisations seem to need this.

Take a look at this:

The US has the highest number of guns per capita. While it isn’t the most dangerous place in the world, do those guns make it a safer place? Compared to Britain and France, no… they don’t. In every respect, whether intentional or otherwise, you are far more likely to die from gun violence than you are in either Britain or France.

Why do you consider guns (especially military style guns) to be justified in a nation that purports to be civilised? US gun ownership along with the absolute focus on wealth (which sadly we are doing pretty well at under our current Tory government) and the awful health service are the main reasons I haven’t, and likely never will, visit the USA.

An interesting link here:
The demographics of gun ownership in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

This suggest all kinds of things. Are you a fan of the orange, bloviated, blob? MAGA?

UK Atheist

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