No? Abortion is not murder, correct? Or are you saying it is? I’m confused.
Nope. But now that you mention it, it can be used to say that no one should be FORCED to do one, no?
What he is asking is the same question I have. If you were already a child, how could you have been aborted?
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Oh, I put the wrong word there. Sorry. I meant when I was a fetus. I usually use the word “child” to mean any time I was 14 or younger, up to when I was concieved.
Like it or not, you are STILL a child, in more ways than one, I might add. Unless, of course you are the thirty-ish year old dude living in your mommy’s basement… (shrugging shoulders)…
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My point exactly. Why are you using the world “child” in usual conversation for a fetus? ( yes you did correct yourself in this instance)It shows your thought process which is identical to the word/thought process of the anti abortion crew.
Why 14 and under? That is the arbitrary fundie age they assign in many cults/sects so as to sexually exploit children.
I think the skeleton is showing thru the skin of this one.
How is an almost 18-year-old (literally in 4 or 5 days I’ll be 18) a child? And in what other way am I a child?
Like I said, I used to be anti-abortion, so some of my thought processes may have been affected per se.
Because 15 to 19 is teenagers, and 18 and above is legally adults?
Huh?
Judge them on their actions. If they support legislation that intends to take control of a female’s body, then they are no friend of those who support a woman’s self-determination.
It’s called free speech. They may be right, they maybe wrong, but they have the right to voice their opposition as they choose.
No, 13 -19 are teenagers. A concept that did not exist until the mid 20th century. You were legally a child until 21 in most western countries until the last 20 - 30 years.
No perhaps they do not “hate women” but suppressing women, making her/them subservient to a male’s judgement has exactly the same effect no?
It is not the motivation at question it is the effect on the persons. Exactly as David described.
I was referring specifically to the male sexual organs.
Hypothetically, if someone proposed that any male that fathered a child out of wedlock had a vasectomy, trust me, their would be an outburst opposing anyone messing with the male’s reproductive organs (junk).
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Perhaps.
Male sexual organs was included. I should put that in there, but let me clarify on that one specifically.
Let me add on: they don’t care about circumcision.
Yeah, from Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs), pro-MRAs, and people with a heart not made of stone. Plenty of conservatives, however, want the family to be together, and so maybe they would think these men would have more kids out of wedlock…meaning to them, it solves the problem. Obviously, it does NOT actually solve that, but that’s where their line of thinking would go.
Obviously. I did not say that they were women’s best friends or something like that. I merely pointed out that their intention is not to hate women. That does not include other arguments.
Censorship is not free speech. What reality are you living in?
Well, I’m sorry, but that’s how my brain recorded it.
Seems your brain has recorded more than a few errors that you present as “fact” or “?opinion?” here and when corrected retreat to “but that isn’t what I meant” or, " I am autistic and have difficulty understanding" when you have no such barrier to “understanding” and repeating various agendas from male supremacists, anti choice propaganda (even figures in your speech) and various other unsavory and fake news sources.
You even take the time to argue them…why?
Perhaps you can set your brain to “record accurately” and your fingers to “still” when you are being given thoughtful and erudite replies from those with life and academic experience.
Have you screen shotted your interractions with the perverts yet? They will be on your hard drive…
I can make mistakes in my typing. Also, I do have a harder time understanding when people do sarcasm or the like.
Like what? Sorry, I haven’t been saying anything male supremacist or coming from male supremacists. You’re gonna have to bring proof that I am.
Because that was in my past, so I still have to change my brain!
Like what?
Which part?
If it’s the Men’s Rights one, then it’s because I care about men and have been affect by issues that affect men.
You sound so entirely egotistical that I’m going lose all my brain cells and cry from the damage.
Since it was from 3 to 4 years ago, I would either need to get on that account again or I’m shit out of luck.
Perhaps if you had your brain set to “record” you would have read a perfectly formed sentence in English, not only read it but understood it. I was NOT referring to myself.
Please do not lose any more brain cells, your tenuous grasp on reality will hardly survive the trauma.
I know, you know that your account would still be there …they committed a crime in your jurisdiction, they attempted to view child pornography. Why have you not sent a copy of the interactions to the police? Do you not care that they are probably (most likely) repeating the entire scenario with equally naïve and trusting children? ( probably most of them did not think it was an “accident”)
Ok, well I’m still losing brain cells.
Must be the feminists from We Hunted the Mammoth making me lose the majority of them. You’re just adding on.
Also, rude.
I know, I just can’t remember the name, sadly.
Once I’m able to, I will.
I do. The hell you accusing me of?
Well, obviously. They all well knew my age at the time.
I do not hate chickens but I eat them.
What does eating chickens have to do with anti-abortionism?
Anybody else noticed how our resident expert repeatedly does not understand most of the responses provided to her?
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