I agree, that strikes me as a moral imperative, and one that AlphaLogica157 has already said he agrees with.
Again the basis for my morality is to avoid or prevent unnecessary suffering. So binary choices often present difficult moral dichotomies. To be honest I’d be more worried by anyone who had no moral misgivings when faced with such choices.
Again putting this as simply as I am able, if we are faced with a binary choice, where both actions could be considered immoral, then weighing up which was the less moral choice seems to me the only option. I’d add the caveat that doing nothing is not an option, for a pregnant woman I mean obviously.
Now a pregnant woman wants to terminate the pregnancy. So given my morality is based on preventing unnecessary suffering, it seems clear to remove women’s bodily autonomy is the greater “evil”.
Since an insentient fertilised egg, zygote, blastocyst, or foetus is unable to experience suffering, or even the loss of the life it might develop into, the moral decision is that women make the choice.
And again this is something we now all seem to agree on as well.
The only argument left it seems, is to measure my own emotional angst against a woman seeking a termination, and that again indicates the greater suffering should and would be avoided if women decide, especially since I’m not the one who will have to carry the pregnancy through and give birth, and as impressive as that is, it’s hardly the end of the responsibility.
For what it is worth, he said life begins at insemination, which happens BEFORE the egg is fertilized. Of course I’m guessing that isn’t what he meant.
Don’t forget in “A Brave New World” there were “reservations” for those that did not want to live (or were born into) the technological society -
One point of A Brave New World was the removal of “suffering” - emotional, physical and moral (ethics) - there was a place for everyone, and everyone in their place (here’s some soma)
I appreciated, Sheldon, your acknowledgment that a decision to terminate a pregnancy isn’t “easy” nor is war (yet it is done) nor is being a policeman or doctor/surgeon or a host of other real life situations where life/death decisions are made and there are varying degrees in all.
In Huxley’s masterpiece fertilised embryos are reared in purpose built facilities rather than gestating in a live human, and subjected to chemical treatments to retard development (intelligence), in order to provide sufficient numbers of sub par intelligent humans to perform menial jobs.
This is augmented with a state sponsored and supplied drug, called soma if memory serves, which reduces anxiety and worry and cause a euphoric contentment.
Feeling depressed and you get extra soma. It’s use in the book by Huxley was most likely symbolic though.
Fuck yah
… but I’m not a partaker …fucks me up (not my type of soma)
Nothing wrong with a bit of “soma” in all forms - the point of the use was as an “insulation” against feelings or emotions that were deemed harmful
No emotion is “harmful” - they provide information. How one “handles” the emotion, well that’s its own story. And I am only addressing “emotions”, not mental illness.
very good, but grapes are not that funny, plumbs are way funnier.
For those of us old enough to remember Morecambe and Wise, there was a sketch set in a garden, the scene opens and they are both sipping a cool drink, sitting in deck chairs in a well kept garden. EM is wearing a ludicrous knotted hanky on his head and massively baggy shorts with hoops in the end of the legs. He tries to push them down a few times, there is canned laughter, then he finally squeezes them shut from the sides with a grin, louder canned laughter…
EM: “The garden’s looking good Ern”
EW “Thanks, I think I’ll show my plumbs this year”
EM gives a knowing look to camera as the canned laughter goes nuts.
I probably should not say this cog, but: it has been agreed that you are banned from sex gatherings, not because you are a monkey, (hey we all are,) and we all believe in monkey equality, but because of your current fascination with poop flinging has made some of the other participants rather uncomfortable…
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