An Early Christmas Wish

I’m an atheist (I think my handle hints at that)… strong and occasionally militant, even having my own site dedicated to atheism, but I still celebrate Christmas. My reasons are, it seems to me, fairly straightforward and boil down liking both the season and the event; no mumbo jumbo, no imaginary gods, I just want to.

I was brought up Catholic and it wasn’t until my thirties (more than thirty years ago) that I realised I had utterly rejected the essential tenets of Christianity. But why do I continue to celebrate the birth of the Christian messiah.

Well that, I don’t do; the reasons I continue to celebrate Christmas (and maybe “celebrate” is the wrong word) is that I consider it fun, a time when my friends and family are enjoying it as there is good company, good cheer, food & drink and, quite simply, a good time to be had by all. I am sure there must be many Jewish people who celebrate Hanukah, and Muslims who celebrate Ramadan in much the same way. You could argue that despite my lack of religiosity, I remain culturally Christian/Catholic.

Margo McKenna, an Intern Minister at the First Unitarian Universalist Church of San Diego, on December 17th 2000, gave an address that included the following as a possible view of the “miraculous” (although the word itself is somewhat irrelevant to me):

“The miraculous may be the acknowledgement that there is awe in the simple events of everyday life. I find the miraculous in the smell of pine needles and cookies baking, the feeling of a warm bed on a cold night, the joy of having friends who may have become like family, a full moon on a clear night, our pets who love us unconditionally, a wheelchair in which to be mobile, a hug or a smile, the opportunity to eat or share from our bounty with someone who has nothing to eat, the wonder of waking up in the morning.”

At Christmas, as I do at most other times of the year, I remain in awe of the magnificent natural splendour, rolling hills spread out before my eyes, of science and of my children and those of others. At Christmas, I am grateful to be alive, grateful to the blind, pitiless & indifferent forces that shaped this universe; grateful to those that went before without whose efforts I would probably have been born into poverty or slavery. I am grateful to those who remain (for whatever distorted reasons) my friends, I am grateful (if only for the intellectual challenge they offer) to those who I “hang with” on the Internet. But most of all I am grateful for the love and support of my family, my beautiful wife & my two wonderful children and I, as an atheist, look forward to spending my Christmas free of religion and with them. In short, I am grateful to those that I love & those that love me and, even though that gratitude can never be returned, I remain grateful to a universe that without reason or purpose brought me into existence.

Of course I could argue that Christmas is actually the pagan festival of Saturnalia (a celebration of the winter solstice) before it was stolen by Christians and now it seems everyone else has “stolen” Christmas from the Christians; big whoop! Or I could argue that I’m doing it because I’m celebrating the fact that reindeer can fly; and I know that’s true because NASA provides the proof each and every Christmas Eve night, haha!

Of course, I rail against the emphasis on both religion and commercialism but I’d rail against them any other time of the year. To me, and I suspect most others, Christmas is just a good time when people get together to have a good time and religion, quite frankly, just gets in the way! Unlike some atheists (and I do know some), I’m not all “Bah Humbug” about it; I love to give gifts to others (and at my age it really is about giving), I love to eat, I love to talk & drink with friends, I love the new films on TV, DVD & Blu-ray (even the Christmas classics) … all in all it is a nice time!

So, whether you are atheist or theist; whether you believe in the existence of Christ or Buddha or Mohammed; whether you look for salvation to Yahweh, Elohim, Allah or the simple rest from a life of which you have grown weary; whether you believe in god, gods or UFO’s I wish you all a happy Christmas and hope that the next year will bring you peace & happiness.

UK Atheist

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To be completely honest, I couldn’t care less about Christmas. Last year I spent about $300.00 Throwing the Christmas Party at work and this year I will do the same. I am deep-frying a turkey for Christmas Dinner on Saturday the 23rd. We are having dinner on the 23rd because everyone has Church on the 24th. I’m going shopping at Costco this Saturday. Gas for the car $70 round trip. Turkey $83.00 Trimmings Another $100 at least. Some gifts… OOPS! Looks like it will be closer to $400.

Mostly I do it for the foreign staff. I invite everyone though. I provide the basics and the rest is 'Pot Luck."

It’s just a day to get together, eat, and have fun. It’s also a lot more interesting than the alternative. (Reading posts by Skriten , Tin, or Old Man… Sheesh… what a way to ruin a good holiday!) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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I’ve been indulging in my personal xmas tradition of watching “A Christmas Carol”. Soooo many versions to choose from. As a child I saw it performed as a play at the local college and it gave me a fright . I once listened to a tape of it repeatedly while on a cross country drive. The version I’ve probably seen most is the 1951 one with Alexander Sim. Extraordinary special effects for the time. Considering your name icon @Get_off_my_lawn , perhaps you’d enjoy the Muppet version? Or not :slight_smile: It is one of my favorites for its lighthearted take. I’m lukewarm about the Jim Carey version that the image seems to be taken from. What are other peoples favorites? For a story about Xmas it manages to leave out that whole tiresome “it’s jesus birthday” thing. In keeping with the agnostic’s prayer the famous Tiny Tim line could use a bit of a tweek: So…“God bless us, if there is a god, everyone.” :slight_smile:

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Reminds me… I should watch ‘Schrooged’ I don’t have a Christmas tradition, but damn if I did… That was a funny flick!

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@Cognostic already beat me to it, but I also strongly recommend “Scrooged”. Matter of fact, the wife and I just watched it this past weekend. Funniest version of “A Christmas Carol” you will ever watch. :joy: :joy:

(Edit for the Ghost of Christmas Present.)

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Thanks, UK. And a Merry Christmas to you, too. I consider myself fortunate that I don’t have to worry about all the Jesus and religious stuff with my family. We get together for Christmas now primarily for the sake of our 3 year old grandson. Otherwise, it’s just a time for us all to gather, eat good food, exchange gifts, and just enjoy hanging out together for awhile. All in good fun.

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I don’t think I’ve seen the Muppet version, but would like to. I used to love the Muppets as a kid, but my parents didn’t appreciate it much, so on the rare occasion they actually watched it, they assumed the roles of Statler and Waldorf, only in our living room :slight_smile:

I had no idea which version I took the image from. I just googled “scrooge bah humbug” and picked the first one I found that conveyed the message :slight_smile:

Edit: I haven’t watched enough versions of “A Christmas Carol” to have a favorite version, but I watched a stage version of it a few years ago. It was performed by a local mixed pro+amateur theatre group, and was pretty good.

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We do it now for our kids and will probably do the same when/if we have grandchildren and yeah, as you say, it’s just a bit of fun (screw religion) :slight_smile:

UK Atheist

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“The Holiday” and “Last Christmas” (though I’ll admit the latter is better because Emelia Clarke is in it). I also enjoy “It’s A Wonderful Life” and “A Nightmare Before Christmas” :slight_smile:

Even though I’m no fan of the show, I love the “Merry F***ing Christmas” song from “South Park” :slight_smile:

UK Atheist

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Elf :elf:
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Our family’s annual movie at Christmas :christmas_tree:

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I like “The Santa Clause”, “It’s a Wonderful Life”, and “White Christmas”.

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The only problem with this picture is that dinosaurs were once real. Otherwise it makes perfect sense. Hmmm. Let’s see if I can fix it.

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My favorite Christmas movie is Love Actually.

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Lots of people seem to. I haven’t because I’m not a Will Ferrell fan.

UK Atheist

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Yep! Cheesy but fun (but then, most of them are) :slight_smile:

UK Atheist

Now that’s funny… steals!

And so’s that!

UK Atheist

But did Jesus ride a dinosaur? Hmm? Thought not :slight_smile: