I don’t need to guess, and I don’t accept the loaded premise in your question. It aso doesn’t address the fact that biologically race does not exist, it’s a social construct.
You’ve done it repeatedly in this thread? maybe you should re-read some of your posts?
Do you see how this is at odds with this:
Those two claims contradict each other.
Then you will have noticed that they are in Europe, and have dark skin, the evolution of melanin in hot sunny countries see.
You’re afraid to guess. You know the answer rests on biology and not social constructs.
I’d rather not get kicked off the board. So, I won’t be replying to this
Also, influxes of African peoples over the straight of Gibraltar for thousands of years might affect the skin tone as well. To be clear, I don’t care about the colour of anyone’s skin.
Another lie. What do you imagine it says when you ignore objective biological facts, ask loaded questions, and then lie about my answer?
It wasn’t a question, no reply is necessary, the contradiction is manifest.
An unevidenced claim, that doesn’t address the point, quelle surprise. Humans evolve more melanin in sunnier climates, even if they happen to be in Europe, and FYI the north coast of Africa is less than 9 miles from Spain, so the idea one is a “white European” domain and the other not is utterly risible.
What was loaded about the question? The problem isn’t that is was loaded. The problem is that you don’t answer counter-questions. The question made a clear point about biological differences among peoples in close but geographically isolated regions. It contradicted your so-called social construct idea, and thus you refuse to be shown incorrect. That’s what it says.
I’m referring to “whites” as a label used to describe a category of people typically descended from Europe. But go ahead and label me a racist if you want to. That’s fucking low. Even for you.
You assume I would ever want to guess, you assume the criteria is limited to your false dichotomy, it is a loaded question. Firstly why would I need to guess this, secondly it can be established with objective evidence, thirdly origins is vague and subjective, and lastly why would I care?
No it doesn’t, since the only claim I made was that your assertions about a “white race” were meaningless as there is no such thing biologically as a “white race”.
No it doesn’t, you have moved from the original claim about a “white race”, to a loaded question about nationality and oringins.
No it really doesn’t, all you have done is move the goal posts and ask a loaded and irrelevant question. There is no such thing biologically speaking as a “white race”.
ratty, you claimed that:
When you had already claimed
Stop digging my friend, either you think there is a white race and they are justified in feeling threatened, or you don’t care about skin colour, you can’t claim both, that is axiomatic.
Because we’re in a debate room and I posed a counter question to you. You definitely shouldn’t want to answer the question because it defeats your claim, while supporting mine.
And I’m showing you that with ethnic groups as closely related geographically as the Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese we find physical changes to their DNA which make their appearance so unique that, respectively speaking, each ethic group considers itself unique from the others.
First of all, “white race” just refers to people with European Ancestry. That’s a colloquial use of the term. And it’s a use of the term widely accepted in the Americas. It doesn’t refer to “one race defined by white skin”. Do you think I’m that stupid?
I’m aware of that. You can stop informing me as if I didn’t know or was arguing such a case. Stop misrepresenting me.
I’m using the term “white” in the below sense:
I won’t common any further on whether or not they’re threatened for reasons previously discussed. I will say that my concern for their existence doesn’t mean that I am prejudiced against any other ethnic group
So what, you can’t dictate what I should and should not do with a loaded question, especially as it has no relevance to your claim about a “white race” and my observation that this claim has no biological basis.
It isn’t even relevant to either, as I just explained, your loaded question was about nationality, not the social construct in your earlier claim about a “white race”. FYI nationality is not a biological fact either, dear oh dear?
I will try bullet points:
Ethnicity, and white race are not the same claim - moved goal posts.
Their DNA is not unique wtf are you talking about?
How is your sweeping unevidenced claim about how ethnic groups perceive themselves anything to do with biological facts?
“Race Isn’t Biological — So Why Do So Many Still Think It Is?”
“Since the 1950s, scholars at universities have been spreading the message that race is a social construct – a way of categorizing people that society has devised – in this instance, based on the arbitrary criterion of skin colour.”
It’s still a social construct and not a biological one. You’re simply digging this pit deeper and deeper. You started wrong, and are defending an erroneous idea. Europeans are no more a biological race than white skinned people are.
That would be the very defintion of a cultural as oposed to a biological claim.
I’m going to plead the 5th, given how stubbornly you’re trying to defend a claim that a few seconds Googling would disavow.
Oh ffs ratty, then your claim was wrong and your endless tedious denials I was wrong to refute it utterly pointless, well done.
Stop lying, or I will start quoting again.
That is a cultural claim ffs, the only objection I have made is that your claim was a cultural one and not a biological one, you are trying to defend your erroneous claim with evidence that utterly refutes it??? Is this a windup?
You never said ethnic group, you said (white) race, so the goal posts are being moved here.
You also claimed (non-whites) were a threat?
Perhaps best to walk away, have some sleep and rethink this one, seriously.
So it’s not a biological race then, glad you’re finally accepting the biological truth, you might have saved a great deal of time by just checking this, when I pointed it out earlier, and save us all your tedious denials.
