Not to argue semantics, but I think this is where words matter. Seeking truth is not the same as seeking an answer.
Seeking truth is process oriented, where seeking an answer is goal oriented.
Both suffer from subjectivity. Truth is subject to perception. Answers are subject to purpose.
Facts are like the raw material required for validation. An absolute truth is no longer absolute when it is missing facts. An answer does not suffer that limitation.
Iâm not convinced he understands moral objectivism, relativism, or subjectivism.
I donât think Iâve ever heard this put so succinctly and clearly. Thanks for this.
You are welcome. Honestly, I learned this from 25 years working with troubled horses.
Thatâs interesting, cynical1.
Applying logic to what you say, since Christianity requires its followers to believe without evidenceâŚ
John 20 : 29
Then Jesus told him, âBecause you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.â
âŚthen JustCurious canât claim that the Bible contains absolute truth. (Not that he has yet.)
Because itâs not just facts that are missing from the equation, evidence is too.
But perhaps we shouldnât be so surprised at that. After all, the apostle Paul wrote thisâŚ
Corinthians 13 : 12
For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
At least he seems to have understood that absolute truth isnât to be found in this life and nowhere on Earth.
Thank you,
Walter.
Depends on who you ask, and when you ask them. Catholic church couldnât get enough of Hitler, until he lost. Now they will tell you about how bad he was and how no real Christians would have followed him.
Just thought Iâd drop in during the lunch hour; so, have to run againâbut cynical1 Iâd be interested in hearing more about your 25 years of working with troubled horses. Itâs a shame that we human beings arenât that easy to work with. 
Talk to you all later. Hope youâre having a good day.
Great discussion, guys, and right-on-target: because none of usâabsolutely none of us (including me)âhas a corner market on truth. Thereâs a Cause and we see its effects: which should cause us to confess our ignorance and be like a little child (years ago) whoâd look up into the sky at night and go âWowwww!â instead of talking about black holes, how far it is between stars (around 30 trillion miles), etc.
Yes, in my simple, peanut brain I admit that this is all âbeyondâ me and, like Paul, say we only âsee through a glass dimly:â especially when we see all Truth as revelation instead of discovery. 
Confess our ignorance, be like a little child AND donât ignore or deny the evidence.
Because responsible adults should discipline their children not to ignore or deny the evidence.
Yes?
Youâre exactly right, Walter: and thatâs why âthe heavens declare the Glory of Godâ and serve as evidence of His existence and creative design.
Gotta run. Thanks again for letting me be a part of your discussion groupâand for not beating me up too badly. 
I thought about what you did here yesterday and today, JC.
Itâs like a child at school being asked by the teacher what the capital of France is. The child says Berlin and the teacher corrects the child with the evidence. The following day the teacher asks the same child the same question and child, even though itâs been shown the evidence, stubbornly answers, Berlin.
Thatâs what happened here. Yesterday you were shown evidence and today, like that stubborn child, youâve persisted in ignoring and denying it.
It seems that the child in question has closed itâs mind to the evidence, preferring what it wants to be true and not letting the evidence decide what is true.
If that is what you consider evidence; then your standards are simply MUCH lower than mine. Iâd wager they are artificially low (Iâd wager you are not this credulous in the other aspects of your life). I certainly hope so. If not: would you be interested in an investment opportunity in a Moon bridge?
The evidence says otherwise, JC.
But we have seen how your mind is closed to the evidence that says otherwise.
Youâre exactly right, Walter: and thatâs why âthe heavens declare the Glory of Godâ and serve as evidence of His existence and creative design.
Which you see only by faith and not by any evidence.
If Iâm exactly right in what I said you should look at the evidence and not make the decision on faith alone.
Itâs obviously possible to believe things using faith that arenât true. So obviously faith is a poor reason on which to base belief, since it doesnât help us verify the veracity of claims.
But, Sheldon, it seems to me that it takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a theist. Sorry, I was heading out the door, but took one more look and saw your post. Thanks for writing! Later.
Well, weâre back to circular reasoning, Walter, because you believe things are so because you see them (a materialist view) whereas I believe because I know that none of this happened by accident or coincidence (a spiritual view). Weâre talking about the same thing, but differing in what caused it all.
Gotta run. Later.
that isnât a serious argument, that is a soundbite. i donât think you are serious. bye
How? Who told you that? Based on what?