I like their TV show.
Came across Penn Jillette yesterday while looking for something else. Found this a bit muddled:
“I believe that there is no God. I’m beyond atheism. Atheism is not believing in God. Not believing in God is easy — you can’t prove a negative, so there’s no work to do. You can’t prove that there isn’t an elephant inside the trunk of my car. You sure? How about now? Maybe he was just hiding before. Check again. Did I mention that my personal heartfelt definition of the word “elephant” includes mystery, order, goodness, love and a spare tire?”
PS I discovered various atheist thinkers after I became an atheist. My atheism arrived very slowly, as I searched a great many claims for the existence of god and a spiritual realm. No empirical evidence was ever offered and claims also did not survive exposure to reason and logic . That’s something which has not changed.