I’ll try:
Because I used to be a JW.
Kudos, you get the cigar. I never thought I’d ever derive any fun or pleasure from one of campello’s posts.
LOL - Where in the fuck was I? That should have been my post! kudos~!!!
Wrong. If there is a well-proven fact in this world, it is the extrasensory perception during the state of clinical death. An inert body, with no heartbeat or any brain activity, suddenly awakens and describes, in great detail, what happened during his trance, not only in the room where he lay, but in the other rooms of the house or hospital, which from where he was he could not see even if he was awake, in good health and with his eyes open. This has been repeated so many times, and it has been attested by so many reputable scientific authorities, that only a complete ignorant in the matter can insist on remaining incredulous. But even some of those who recognize the impossibility of denying the fact are reluctant to draw the conclusion that it necessarily imposes: the limits of human consciousness extend beyond the horizon of bodily activity, including that of the brain. The reluctance to accept this shows that the “modern man” — the product of the culture that we inherited from the Enlightenment — has identified himself with his body to the point of feeling frightened and offended at the mere suggestion that his person is something else. It is evident that this is not just a conviction, an idea, but an incapacitating self-hypnotic trance, an effective block of perception.
Who let this retard in? Prove it, you don’t know what happens when we’re dead, only the dead know the truth, and they’re not talking.
Skeptic alarm at 9. 
Unless you can show us the above, you’re just presenting hearsay and unevidenced assertions. In short: I don’t believe you.
OH FUCK! I chipped my fucking tooth when I knocked myself out with the fucking face palm and now I am responding to the post late and toothless. Anyone got anything they want gummed to death?
Please, please, please, cite one reputable scientific authority who has made the assertion and backed it up with evidence “The human consciousness extends beyuond the boundaries of the body.” I can’t fucking wait!
Clinical death is the cessation of blood circulation and breathing, the brain will start to be starved of oxygen but will not die immediately, the fact that the brain continues to store memories doesn’t remotely evidence the claim of an afterlife. The claims of what people revived from this state have imagined are little more than subjective hearsay, quackery of the worst kind, and of course just as has happened throughout the history of religious claims, there is a fair amount of chicanery.
I don’t believe this claim prima facie, but even if sufficient objective evidence could be demonstrated to support it, all you’d have have is an inexplicable event. To make ANY assertions based on the lack of contrary evidence is the very definition of an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy. Which of course makes it irrational by definition.
Only someone ignorant of common logical fallacies like argumentum ad ignorantiam, and what it means to base arguments on such logical fallacies would make such an asinine and strident claim.
I don’t believe you, citation please, and while I was waiting I checked every major global news network and more than one worthy peer reviewed scientific journal, and even the Catholic Herald, and quelle surprise this paradigm shifting evidence for an afterlife has been missed by them all. If you want to sway the people here, you will have to do better than rehashing this blatant quackery and sophistry, and falsely implying that there is credible scientific evidence anyone can survive the physical death of their own brain in any meaningful way. Only someone without the most basic understanding of the scientific method would be foolish enough to make such an idiotic claim publicly. Do you even know what falsifiability is, or peer review?
Firstly you have presented no facts, just unevidenced hearsay, and your risible implication that your own conclusions here have scientific merit, without a single citation, is hilarious. You managed to combine both an appeal to authority fallacy, and an argumentum ad populum fallacy in one sentence.
Rubbish, another ludicrous assertion without a shred of evidence demonstrated to support it, even your earlier claim that these superstitious narratives are from clinical death, and not brain death contradict this one. Clinical death is very different from brain death, and after you throwing around words like ignorant, it is hilarious you don’t know this.
Woo woo word salad, the barrier here is the dearth of objective evidence for the risible superstitious conclusions you and others are so keen to leap to.
Welcome to Atheist Republic gabz.
A study carried out on dying rats found high levels of brainwaves at the point of the animals’ demise.
US researchers said that in humans this could give rise to a heightened state of consciousness.
The research is published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Science: there are indications of heightened brain activity near death.
Religion: jesus visits you when you die.
The thing is gabz, it is documented and accepted that a brain may experience increased activity on death. But there are zero recorded instances of extrasensory perception. Lots and lots of personal testimony, but no data.
There was a great Monty Python sketch where they discuss the subject of Life after Death, and to discuss it they had three dead people there(None of them were Bruce Willis).
There are cases of people born blind who are clinically dead, that is, both the brain and the heart do not work, and can see vividly. There are others that have these experiences with blood completely drained from the brain, or that there is only a little bit of it.
An interesting thing is that everyone reports that they get immensely intelligent in this state; memory expands, reasoning is instantaneous, and so on. It could be a clue that consciousness does not come from the ‘brain’ or the ‘heart’ but that they serve as ‘funnels’ that limit our intelligence to function here. Anyway, what I’m saying – that consciousness is not in your body, but encompasses it in a way – is nothing new for neurologists and specialists in the field who study the subject closely, only for atheist militants who like to self-deceive themselves.
That is a red herring. I don’t think there is anyone here who doesn’t think near death experiences are real. What many of us are skeptical of is the notion that these experience contain useful information about the world.
All this seems to prove is that many people have hallucinations as the brain is stressed through lack of oxygen. You can get these same feelings of euphoria and enhanced reality through huffing glue. We humans have a long history of messing with our minds through controlling our oxygen intake. It’s even been done for religious purposes and not just funsies.
No one has ever recovered from proven cessation of brain activity, no one.
Self deception works both ways. You’re very invested in it being true that we survive bodily death. If we don’t then your whole belief system falls apart.
You have been sharpening your poignard haven’t you?
Love it!
I don’t believe this claim, and seriously, PubMed? Any worthy peer reviewed scientific journals publish these claims as valid?
Everyone, hilarious, I’ve never reported any such thing.
It could be made up nonsense, but either way it is not objective evidence for an afterlife.
I don’t believe this assertion.
I don’t believe this ludicrous hyperbole either.
I do believe that is a no true Scotsman fallacy, though I am comforted that “atheist” are not duped by such asinine superstition and chicanery. Well done “atheists”… 
Yeah, pretty sketchy paper. They cite as evidence testimonials from NDERF (Near Death Experience Research Foundation). It’s a website that invites everyone to send in their NDE, no proof needed. Besides, the jokes on them anyway since even if they could prove that there’s something that survives it wouldn’t keep me from being an atheist. Millions of Buddhist seem to manage it.
I had a near death experience. I will not state it made me more intelligent, but my dream was incredibly intense. The noises were louder, any shock was felt more powerfully, emotions ran higher, everything was heightened.
Anyone can have an NDR. All it takes is time and practice. The occult world has known about this shit for eons. They are common human states of mind that are easily obtained by anyone willing to do the seeking. You don’t need magic, rituals, stupid beliefs, isolation chambers, drugs, special meditation techniques, mantras, or any of that other bullshit. You just need to be willing to sit with yourself, independent of external stimulation. What happens next is … mind blowing… but it is still just MIND.