Why should anyone trust that any evidence you have is not just a lie? See, it can work both ways. Why not just make the leap and provide it. How can doing so harm you?
Here’s a few: is it measurable, is it repeatable, is it verifiable? Now, you will either pony up or come up with some other reason not to provide examples of what you claim is evidence. Up to you.
Why is that a matter of trust? I want to show evidence but need an objective statement of what characteristics you look for so that I can then select evidence.
Then you evaluate it against said criteria - no trust here, I am not asking to be taken on trust.
That’s a start. But what do you mean “repeatable”? Consider evidence for a one-off event, that isn’t repeatable is it? for example evidence for Spartacus is not “repeatable” in any sense, yet we still have evidence, you’d reject evidence for Spartacus yet scholars don’t do they?
Then you ask for “verifiable” again considering Spartacus, what is verifiable about the evidence for him? do you regard it as verifiable?
Right back at you, as you’ve been told. READ THE POST - PROPERLY.
Same as the very first time you asked, sufficient objective evidence and rational argument, you have failed to offer either, and again WHAT IS YOURS?
You won’t get anything from me until you share the objective criteria you intend to use to evaluate the evidence, my time is too important to fiddle with your procrastination.
Fucking Spartacus again…
I use what you use obviously, my reasoning faculties, unless you have some secret method, but then you refuse to answer on that score as well. Very well I remain disbelieving and cannot be otherwise.
Funniest post ever, was the irony intentional?
Yes, but such a useful chap.
Fine, so no evidence for you.
That’s STILL a false equivalence fallacy, since Spartacus is not being argued to have been anything but human. It’s also of no import to me whether he existed or not, much the same as Jesus in that respect.
How can a question be a “false equivalence fallacy”?
The comparison between Spartacus and Jesus is a false equivalence fallacy you are peddling, the question is simply continuing that irrational comparison. The existence of Spartacus has no relevance to the claim that Jesus was a deity, as I explained if you’d READ MY POST.
Would larger lettering help you understand?
Useful? Yes, Spartacus did, and continues to, serve as a distraction from the main event. First Rome, now in a conversation about supernaturality…
Or anyone else ever, but then we’d likely be reading it on every major news network if anyone really had compelling evidence for a deity.
In all your excitement you forget to tell us what your method is? Funny how your bias oozes from every post. We can do no more than ask anyone to evidence their claims, and no more than ask what criteria they think is better than using our reasoning faculties to evaluate it, when they claim to have one, but repeatedly refuse to share it, and your evasion on BOTH COUNTS litters this discourse for any objective reader to see.
I guess this latest refusal to offer anything means the neutral observers will have to remain unconvinced with the rest of us.
Red Herring
“a fact, idea, or subject that takes people’s attention away from the central point being considered”
I have a pet red herring named Sophy
We weren’t discussing Jesus, we were discussing the objective criteria for evaluating evidence for God. @CyberLN said “repeatable” was a criterion so I asked how can that be the case when we the evidence we have for (say Spartacus) is not repeatable yet no scholars argue that the evidence is not evidence.
Hahahhhhaaa…yeah you know, just a random guy that popped into my head!
This is getting hilarious…
It was, it was a very suitable example because we’ve been referring to it recently for other reasons but you can pick any example really.
Care to step in and speculate on what @CyberLN is going on about with “repeatable” he said that was a necessary characteristic for evidence for something but it seems not, not unless ancient historians have all been hoodwinked.
We ??? Do you have a turd in your pocket?
You don’t think Jesus was a deity, I am inclined to agree.
False equivalence fallacy, since no one is asserting that Spartacus is anything but human, perhaps you could have this laminated on a card to save you wasting your PRECIOUS TIME endlessly repeating the same fallacy over and over again?