Theist derision of science

[Sheldon]

@WhoAreYou

the information comes from the information creator not necessarily from the observer.

It is an objective fact that the observer exists, while there is no objective evidence at all for any “creator”, the fact this must be explained over and over just underlines your rank dishonesty throughout this discourse. You are violating Occam’s razor with the same irrational bullshit, over and over again, even after your error has been explained each and every time.

@WhoAreYou

Neither does it come from the system it came from.

Utter gibberish…?

@WhoAreYou

It was placed there in the system by a designer.

Since you have failed to demonstrate any objective evidence or even rational argument to support this claim, it’s baffling that you imagine repeating your unevidenced assertion makes it at all compelling.

[Cognostic]

@WhoAreYou

the information comes from the information creator not necessarily from the observer

Your just making assertions. Do you have any evidence? I can say, whatever it is you are calling information was put there by a potato, and our arguments are exactly the same.

[Sheldon]

@Cognostic

Your just making assertions. Do you have any evidence? I can say, whatever it is you are calling information was put there by a potato, and our arguments are exactly the same.

Not sure I agree, since we know as an objective fact that potatoes exist, and are therefor possible, we have no such evidence for any deity. So your version has one less violation of Occam’s razor than his.

Winner winner chicken dinner! All hail the mighty creator potato.

[Cognostic]

@Sheldon

fact that potatoes exist,

I thought I referenced the magic flying, invisible, non-corporal, omnipotent, one eyed but all seeing, purple potato that exists beyond time and space. I just assumed you understood me.

[Nyarlathotep]

@WhoAreYou

…the information comes from the information creator…

I don’t think you know what information is.

[Calilasseia]

@WhoAreYou

the information comes from the information creator not necessarily from the observer.

I never asserted that it did, but I’m used to seeing mythology fanboys misrepresent my posts.

@WhoAreYou

Neither does it come from the system it came from.

Bullshit. Every physical system contains information about its physical state, and an imaginary cartoon magic man isn’t needed for any of this, as every proper, rigorous treatment of the topic informs those of us who pay attention honestly to the facts.

@WhoAreYou

It was placed there in the system by a designer.

Poppycock. What “designed” dog turds? Or piles of gravel on a stream bed? Or the fluff that gathers under your bed if you forget to break out the vacuum cleaner for a free weeks?

Drop the fatuous need on your part to resort to a cartoon magic man from a goat herder mythology, because you’re too stupid to understand testable natural processes. We don’t need your imaginary and fatuous cartoon magic man to explain anything, not least because " Magic Man did it" explains precisely nothing.

Haven’t you learned not to post horseshit here, after all the occasions you did in the past, only for said horseshit to be fed into the shredder by recourse to facts? All of which toss your sad little fantasies and the ridiculous Bronze Age mythology you masturbate over into the bin?

[CyberLN]

@WhoAreYou

the information comes from the information creator not necessarily from the observer. Neither does it come from the system it came from. It was placed there in the system by a designer.

@WhoAreYou, please show us your work. What, precisely, were the steps you took to arrive at these conclusions?

I hope you won’t ignore this request. It would be a shame if you demonstrated that you are unable and / or unwilling to comply. Yes, it is a challenge but I’m sure you can imagine the picture your failure to do so would paint.

[Nyarlathotep]

@Nyarlathotep

I don’t think you know what information is.

I’m guessing you are using a vague, seat of the pants notion of information; that you can’t make quantitative statements about. Essentially just making it up as you go.

[mr.macabre13]

I love meat and potatoes, does this mean I’m not really an atheist?

[Calilasseia]

That’s basically creationism in a nutshell. The business of making shit up, in order to pretend that “Magic Man did it” is something more than an infantile blind assertion from a Bronze Age mythology. Usually heavily leavened with outright lies about any science that flushes said Bronze Age mythology and its cretinous assertions down the toilet.

This year will be my 15th year of dealing with creationist garbage, and in all that time, I cannot recall encountering even one creationist who exhibited either actual knowledge of science (as opposed to whatever excrement was spooned up from somec"pastor" on the subject) or basic honesty.

Indeed, just recently, some of the specimens I’ve encountered on Farcebook have been verminous and pestilential in the extreme - pathological, wilful liars, given to stonewalling and repeatedly parroting inane creationist mantras as if repetition will magically conjure their shit into reality, and many of them functionally illiterate into the bargain.

I can understand why anyone who has spent time actually engaged in serious scientific research, may want to do something other than waste his time trying to reason with an ideological Dalek for creationist bullshit, who manifestly possesses an IQ lower than that of the claw clippings from my dead budgie.

Let’s face it, if you’ve just celebrated having a landmark scientific paper published in a prestigious journal, documenting a decade’s worth of hard research in cosmological physics, on which you’re the lead author, do you really want to be dragged into the gutter by some peon, whose idea of a “critique” of scientific postulates is some piece of excremental drivel such as “Hur hur hur, the Big Bang is an atheist belief that nothing exploded and created a universe, hur hur hur”?

Of course, if it wasn’t for the fact that the professional liars for doctrine, such as the slime at the Duplicity Institute, were well-funded and politically well-connected, creationism would be the fringe lunatic belief that it actually is in the public arena. But thanks to complete and utter twats in right wing political parties seeing it as a useful tool for keeping the plebs stupid and quiescent, this noxious ideological masturbation fantasy has become influential (and dangerously so) way out of proportion to its intrinsic worth as an idea.

It’s not without reason that I regard creationism as a disease.