The Truth: The Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity

Fair play, laugh of the day. Even the deceased Captain Cat has ceased his chase of ghostly mice to laugh at that one…

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1 day down, it is looking more and more as if these questions will remain unanswered.

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Th crux of The Matter remains:

The Bible reveals a God who is Triune in Nature. By applying Mathematics and The Word of God, through a coherent and consistent demonstration of ideas, The Proof arrived at this equation:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

yet The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit is not equal to zero;

The Three Members of The Trinity are United as God

As it was revealed in The Proof:

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9

God = 3

(See Proof for full illustrations)

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit exist as distinct yet coequal hypostases within the divine essence, such that their individual distinctions neither augment nor diminish the totality of God’s being, but rather subsist harmoniously within the indivisible unity of the Godhead. - TRINITY

An equation unlike any other.
There is non like it.

This is The God Equation. This is The Devine Equation.

So, Here is the challenge I put forward to all AR family members:

Through deductive, consistent and coherent reasoning, as demonstrated in this Proof, arrive at an equation like this (A + B + C + D = A) and you might begin to have a counter for this Proof and sway my beliefs.

An aside: Any comment that strays from the essence of this challenge and resorts to veiled barbs will serve only to magnify the formidable nature of the challenge.

The bible is the claim, not the proof. You’re preaching about an unevidenced book. Even a Muslim could say “OH! The Quran reveals!” or a Hindu could say the same thing about their gods from the Bhagavad Gita while offering no evidence that their gods ever existed. You dismiss their gods, just like we dismiss yours.

I missed this :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: Devine

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Comic books reveal Superman and Spiderman, this doesn’t make them real.

Numerology isn’t mathematics, it’s a faith based belief in mysticism.

What you offered is not a sound proof, though all anyone need do is look at any news channel to see how preposterous your thread title hyperbole is.

You have also used several known common logical fallacies, including a begging the question fallacy, that assumed your conclusion (the existence of a deity) in your opening premise, the hilarity is palpable. You haven’t the integrity to address this, so you are dishonestly repeating your comical claims.

All you have offered is a string of unevidenced assumptions, and logical fallacies.

There is no challenge, your claims display an almost comical ignorance of logic.

Now here are the questions you have failed to answer honestly:

I will repost them every time you repeat your specious superstitious claims, so everyone can see you are running scared, and dishonestly evading them.

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I counted six words that that you capitalized that are not proper nouns.
2+2+2=6
3+3=6
1+2+1+2=6
Since 6=6, you are mistaken about all of your assumptions.

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If this was mathematics, “God” cancels out. Since you state it does not, you’re lying about applying mathematics, because what you presented above is not, as it doesn’t follow the rules of mathematics. The closest I get to characterising it is ignorant wankery.

Everything you have presented points me in the direction of you not having understood what a proof is, what logic is (and what it can/cannot be used for), and that your grasp of mathematics is horrendous.

[anecdote]
I once tutored a university student who claimed to be near a breakthrough on an alternative to Einstein’s theory of relativity. He presented it to me, and it was…ignorant wankery fueled by ignorance and an inflated belief in own abilities and knowledge. He hadn’t even grasped the basic ideas behind Newton’s laws, and had a very low working knowledge of mathematics. I explained why that approach would never work, and that was the last I saw of him, as he dropped out.
[/anecdote]

The approach you’re presenting to that numerology “proof” of yours is remarkably similar to the approach said student had to the theory of relativity.

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lol he gonna come back & keep repeating himself. And then you’re going to tell him, but in different words from a similar post. The guy just doesn’t want to get it. :skull::laughing::skull:

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He never did, and you can’t reach a mind as closed as his, that has been clear from the start, but this is a public debate forum, so you can challenge his lack of integrity, and his sophistry, and his superstitious pseudoscientific bs, and that I am more than happy to do.

You may choose to dismiss the scriptural foundation of this proof, yet one fact remains indisputable: the equation was derived through a systematic and coherent progression of ideas. At every stage of its development, I stand accountable and ready to offer complete clarity where required. The concept of the Trinity has long confounded the minds of humanity, defying the bounds of conventional logic. Any equation that seeks to embody the essence of the Trinity must equally transcend the confines of rational constructs.

The challenge still stands:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God
yet, The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit ≠ 0

(See Proof for Full illustration)

Through deductive, consistent and coherent reasoning, as demonstrated in this Proof, arrive at an equation like this (A + B + C + D = A) and you might begin to have a counter for this Proof and sway my beliefs.

This is The God Equation.

Oh, let me get a pencil and write that down, perfectly descriptive and concise, kudos to you sir.

Another perfect set of darts there sir.

maybe he was smarter than the thread author? His posts paint him as a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect so far.

I am dubious the thread author will have a similar epiphany about his posts though. Excellent post again, kudos.

I feel the time for cogent explanations of why his claims are comical nonsense may be coming to an end, and the time to point and laugh is arriving.

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Done, and it’s still not a proof, the claim is comical risible nonsense.

Is unevidenced superstition, and you have failed to offer anything beyond the bare claim. You might as well be claiming to have a proof for three headed mermaids.

…and it’s risible, ignorant and irrational nonsense. Thanks for the laughs…now off you go and publish, we shall all await your triumphant return. :rofl:

  1. You have repeatedly failed to answer when asked, whether you can demonstrate any objective evidence for any deity, or that a deity is even possible.
  2. You used a begging the question fallacy, where you assumed your conclusion (the existence of a deity) in your opening premise, and never addressed this fallacious error in your reasoning. NB this was also quoted for you, with a link to your post.
  3. You keep insisting you have a mathematical proof, but numerology is a faith based belief in mysticism.
  4. You have failed to answer why, if such a proof existed, it is not supported by a broad consensus among mathematicians and theologians?
  5. You insisted your argument was valid even though you failed to address your logical fallacy above, which was a lie, and then because it had not been falsified, which is an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, and again failed to ever address this error in your reasoning, like all the others.

There are the questions you have failed to honestly answer again. I despise mendacity in debate, so get used to seeing those.

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The bible is the claim, not the proof. Thus, whatever you can derive from the bible is relevant only to the bible, and not the real, physical world.

Wrong. You derived it with total disregard for mathematical rules and logic. Whatever you may choose to call it, it is definitely not mathematics.

So far, you have refused to even acknowledge your use of logical fallacies and mathematical errors. Not much accountability to see there…

Quite simply because it is nonsense. It is but a claim from that bible rag of yours, and there is no evidence that links it to the real, physical world.

Here is an equally nonsensical proposition:
Any equation that seeks to embody the essence of rainbow farting unicorns must equally transcend the confines of rational constructs.

You claim to do deductive reasoning, yet your logical and mathematical abilities are abysmal enough to not see that what you are presenting here is bollocks and is not following the rules of mathematics and logic. You claim to stand accountable, yet you refuse to address errors in your reasoning + mathematical errors when they are pointed out.

My claim:
God + Jesus + The Holy Spirit = Wanker
I derived and deduced this based on what was revealed to me in the shower this morning by Eric the rainbow farting unicorn. Prove me wrong.

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Well job done there then, as your spiel is demonstrably and relentlessly irrational, if that was your goal well done.

I love it when the sheeple come here and say things like their belief “transcends logic”, this just means it is unashamedly irrational nonsense.

FYI no proof can “transcend the confines of rational constructs”, this means they fail as proofs. If a mathematical proof contains a known logical fallacy it fails as a proof, and this of course is true of logical syllogisms, like the one Bullwinkle offered earlier, where he used a begging the question fallacy, by assuming the conclusion of his argument in his opening premise.

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Except you mind, eh?

So god plus three others, equals god? Why the three others then? Why not just remove them and say god = god?

[quote=“kingiyk, post:152, topic:6169”]
A + B + C + D = A
[/quote]same questions as above, but substitute letters for people.


kingiyk

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Too late…looks like some of what you typed got quoted in my post before you erased it.

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Since you mention the Dunning-Kruger effect, here’s a talk by David Dunning on why ignorance fails to recognize itself:

A couple of favourite quotes from this video:

Ignorance often refuses – or rather can’t – recognise itself.
– David Dunning

Incompetent people do not cannot know how incompenent they are doing.
– David Dunning

In another video, David Dunning clears up some misconceptions about what the Dunning-Kruger effect is and what it is not. [Edit: the link jumps in at 24:41, where he starts explaining. Although long, the video as such is interesting and worth watching.]

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It will be seen by all who read this thread in the future that a challenge was put forward and all Sheldon, get_off_my_lawn and co. could do was dance around it.

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit exist as distinct yet coequal hypostases within the divine essence, such that their individual distinctions neither augment nor diminish the totality of God’s being, but rather subsist harmoniously within the indivisible unity of the Godhead.

Any equation that seeks to embody the essence of the Trinity must equally transcend the confines of traditional rational constructs.

The challenge still stands:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God
yet, The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit ≠ 0

(See Proof for Full illustration)

Through deductive, consistent and coherent reasoning, as demonstrated in this Proof, arrive at an equation like this:
(A + B + C + D = A) yet B, C, D ≠ 0
and you might begin to have a counter for this Proof and sway my beliefs.

This is The God Equation.

To all watching this thread, watch how they skip this challenge with utterances such as “your logical and mathematical abilities are abysmal enough to not see that what you are presenting here is bollocks” without providing any such examples of abysmal logic. They will cover up this challenge with petty rhetoric without wondering why such a conclusion on the challenge was possible. When you see them putting up this antics, feel pity for them. It is simply a sign of defeat.

It will be seen by all who read this thread in the future that a challenge was put forward and all Sheldon, get_off_my_lawn and co. could do was dance around it.

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit exist as distinct yet coequal hypostases within the divine essence, such that their individual distinctions neither augment nor diminish the totality of God’s being, but rather subsist harmoniously within the indivisible unity of the Godhead.

Any equation that seeks to embody the essence of the Trinity must equally transcend the confines of traditional rational constructs.

The challenge still stands:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God
yet, The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit ≠ 0

(See Proof for Full illustration)

Through deductive, consistent and coherent reasoning, as demonstrated in this Proof, arrive at an equation like this:
(A + B + C + D = A) yet B, C, D ≠ 0
and you might begin to have a counter for this Proof and sway my beliefs.

This is The God Equation.

To all watching this thread, watch how they skip this challenge with utterances such as “your logical and mathematical abilities are abysmal enough to not see that what you are presenting here is bollocks” without providing any such examples of abysmal logic. They will cover up this challenge with petty rhetoric without wondering why such a conclusion on the challenge was possible. When you see them putting up this antics, feel pity for them. It is simply a sign of defeat.