The ones that disappear

And the drivel keeps flowing …

Let’s take a look at this shall we?

This is going to be hilarious.

Poppycock. Love isn’t a “theistic value”, it’s an emotion that humans have experienced ever since we became a well-defined species. Indeed, that emotion was almost certainly experienced by our hominid ancestors going all the way back to Ardipithecus. Scientists have observed bonding relationships taking place between Capuchin monkeys (more on this later), and those monkeys know nothing about your goat herder mythology, your cartoon magic man or your so-called “theistic values”.

Indeed, thanks to the papers I recently obtained on empathy in rats, I suspect they experience this too.

Let’s move on to the rest of your drivel …

Again, poppycock. The truth-value of a proposition has nothing to do with your goat herder mythology or your mythical “theistic values”, it’s the status a proposition attains when it is tested to determine said truth-value, either by recourse to relevant observational data, or by recourse to a derivation in an appropriate formal system. The idea that mathematical proofs, for example, owe anything to your mythical “theistic values” is a pathetic joke. Likewise for postulates about concrete entities verifired by scientific experiment.

Another falsification of this cretinous assertion of yours, is provided by the fact that your goat herder mythology contains within its pages, assertions that are not merely false (but presented therein as purportedly constituting fact), but which are absurd and deranged to such an extent, that they are beneath deserving of a point of view in any rigorous arena of discourse.

Again, poppycock. I’ll cover this in more detail shortly.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Are you completely unaware of this docuemnt:

that I shared here, in which I present the evidence for the evolutionary and biological basis of ethical behaviour? Which includes the concepts of reciprocity and fairness, both of which have been demonstrated to be present in the behaviour of numerous non-human species? Species which, again, know nothing about your cartoon magic man or your mythical “theistic values”?

Note that I presented the contents of no less than eighteen peer reviewed scientific papers in that document, backing the requiiste statements.

Incidentally, several of the papers I presented therein arise from the research of Frans de Waal, and he provides us with this interesting video clip:

The section of that video from about 15:30 onwards is especially illuminating here. Oh wait, capuchin monkeys have a sense of fairness and justice, while knowing nothing of your cartoon magic man or your mythical “theistic values”.

Again … HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Humans have been producing art for a long time - we have instances of art produced by humans dating back to the Upper Palaeolithic, around 40,000 yeas before present, which is around 37,000 years before your mythology existed. In the case of indigenous Australians, some of their art, (including the remarkable instances of “x ray art” they produced, along with abstract “dot art”) may date back as much as 70,000 years before present. None of the people involved in the production of said art knew anything about your mythical “theistic values”.

Meanwhile, how about an example of art from another species?

Male Bower Birds spend days, weeks, or in the case of some species, years building elaborate structures known as “bowers”, which they decorate with carefully selected brightly coloured objects in order to entice females to mate with them. The deliberation exhibited by male Bower Birds when deciding exactly where in their constructions to place particular brightly coloured objects, bears many of the hallmarks of artistic deliberation in humans - it’s entirely possible that these birds possess an aesthetic sense, and apply that to the construction of these elaborate nests. Effectively, the male Bower Birds expend all this effort, to construct a “theatre stage” for their mating dances, and display remarkable intricacy in the construction of said stages. Once again, these birds know nothing of your cartoon magic man or your mythical “theistic values”.

For those interested in seeing one of these birds in action, here’s a video of the Vogelkop Bower Bird strutting its stuff, so to speak (yes, bird porn :smiley: )

Indeed, it’s becoming more and more apparent, as I examine your drivel, that “theistic values” consist of making shit up, in order to pretend that concepts and phenomena bearing no relation to your cartoon magic man purportedly cannot exist without this imaginary entity. If anything, it’s your so-called “theistic values” that involve stealing ideas from elsewhere.

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