Ya know what, it finally dawned on me. From the very beginning of this thread there was something about it that just felt… “skewed”. Just a little ping in the back of my head that has been bugging me, but I could not quite put my finger on it. And, thankfully, it FINALLY came to me. Out of all the tens of thousands of police reports I wrote over the years (Domestic Violence or otherwise), I do not recall a single one that ever required me to notate the religious preferences of the parties involved. For that matter, there were not even any sections on any of the reports asking for such info. Quite frankly, it was never a concern, as far as I know. Therefore, I am absolutely DYING TO KNOW, “Where do all these ‘studies’ get such information to produce all their ratios/percentages/numbers that often do not seem to match with reality?” In other words, how the fuck do these “writers of studies” know whether the victims/suspects in the DV cases are religious or non-religious? Because they certainly did not get it from any police report I’ve ever seen.
By asking them?
Because only SOME report the police stuff. Most do not.
Please think it through.
HOW did the researchers obtain such data?
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By ASKING THEM. How many times am I going to end up repeating this? I need to know ahead of time so I can prepare.
Hey, Genius. Riddle me this, Dear Queen of Supreme Knowledge:
If the acts of violence were never reported to the police (or anybody else), then HOW… THE… HELL did these “study writers” know who to ask to obtain their data? Please, enlighten us merry band of ignorant fools. We eagerly await the light of your timeless wisdom and your profound insight to wash over us and carry us away from our intellectual darkness.
Ooh ooh I know I know!
The advertise on Reddit and Facebook for Victims of Domestic Violence to sign up for a “paid” study…They also (as some are social workers) obtain records of “troubled Families” and tag along with the actual workers (with the departments permission).
Some ( as they are typically funded) will literally hang around hospitals and contact the victims at a later date after obtaining their details either by permission or simply by deceit.
These activities will of course skew the results quite impressively, especially if one is looking for a particular race/gender/social grouping.
Perhaps the poster boy for Male Stupidity and Entitlement can prepare his next onslaught of factoids and studies by asking how the data was obtained and compiled? BEFORE posting it?
Well, shit. Story of my life… (heavy sigh)… Now I must go ponder my entire sorry existence and search for some type of meaning in my life. Woe is me. 
Althoooooough… Hmmm… 
I seem to recall you said yourself that you are a horrible judge of sarcasm because you are not good at detecting/understanding it. Therefore, it stands to reason your evaluation of my remark is pretty much meaningless. Wow! 
By golly, I feel better already! 
Nah, the only truthful thing Drew has written so far is that your grasp of sarcasm is indeed a failure.
However on the art of the lampoon your are a master, there are few who can equal your skill at this difficult art form and none that I know of except maybe Mr Swift who can exceed your high standard.
Not queen (nor king, though I prefer that one) Chief.
By either doing online, telephone, or paper studies with random participants, and based off of who responded with what, you get certain results.
Huh?
The studies I most often look at don’t use it like that.
NISVS: Telephone
Murray Straus: Paper and pencil
Others also include online surveys, telephones, and/or paper and pencil. Some go into in-depth interviews, whether by themself or coupled with other forms (such as a further interview).
The comment I made on that was from a long way back in the conversation, you realize this yes? I was just being pissed at you at the time, and I apologize for my behavior on that.
No, no, no… Don’t be silly, you ol’ coot! The ONLY THING you have to know is that it was a STUDY with stories. Period. End of stor-… Uh, well, you know what I mean. Besides, I think we should ALL be taking notes here and following Drew’s exemplary example of expert enrichment. If we would have simply taken the time to read more studies (rather than wasting all those years obtaining first-hand experiences and stupid shit like that), then we too could now be (almost) as knowledgeable as Drew.
That’s not how it works.
For example, not every study done is scientific, so you have to check for that: A little gender experiment confirms that Reddit is full of douchebags – We Hunted The Mammoth
You do know that personal experiences aren’t everything, right? Also, that these types of studies are a collection of many people’s experiences…also, I hate the experience I have had with DV, sexual violence, etc. I’ve had plenty of those, and I would have rather avoided them, but then again it has helped me do many things, including write this article for my gay MRA friend in the UK (he’s one of the nicest people you could ever meet, by the way, so don’t assume anything about him): Men Have It Better? A Trans MRA Weighs In - Men Are Human
How are the participants vetted? How are they found?
Are you saying a call centre makes thousands of calls at random to find the participants? What is the criteria? Geographical? Demographical?
Any legitimate study will tell you exactly how the participants were contacted, vetted, and (if necessary) rewarded for their participation.
So do not be coy.
Soooo… Uh, when you made that remark “way back then”, you actually DID recognize sarcasm? But then somewhere between then and now you somehow lost the ability to recognize sarcasm? Just trying to figure this out. I mean, did you have some type of head injury, or experience some type of traumatic event, or maybe had your mind zap by some type of alien space beam? (If it is the alien space beam, I’m sure glad I wear a tin hat.)
NISVS is connected to the CDC. Also, they found it by getting random phone numbers, all of which had to be in the US.
The Straus 32 nation one used university and college students in 32 nations.
The NISVS one? Yes. Others? I have no idea.
NISVS gave some of the participants that originally did not complete the survey some money so that they would be moved to finish it, but they were a small number.
The Straus one did not pay participants. Just had them take a pencil and paper survey.
No.
Ok.
About 1 to 2 weeks ago I accidentally got a concussion by falling over a gate trying to close my brother’s door and smashing the top of my head on his door frame. Lol. But that is the only head injury I’ve ever gotten.
I’m no Chief. Just a lowly tribesman. Would be too dangerous (and stupid) to put me in charge of anything.
Ok lol
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Asking who? Request all domestic violence cases, then visit each victim/participant? And one may have a report that is heavily redacted to protect the victim(s).
The participants in the study.
Take a look:
Does this method guarantee that ALL victims/participants participated in the survey?
Depends. What specifically do you mean by this?