Stephen Meyer - Discovery Institute

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@Sherlock-Holmes

It is unsuspended though, “hangs on nothing” is a euphemism used to convey the concept of a large heavy object (the world) not falling.

Why not say how its really is? Why the euphemism? Why the vagueness that can be literally spun to mean anything.

@Sherlock-Holmes

I don’t think that “there was no big bang” is a view held by many cosmologists though.

I never claimed it was.

@Sherlock-Holmes

Is this some kind of argument from authority? Why is it odd too that people educated in a largely secular country will hold secular opinions? Why too would we expect a person educated in the sciences to have any grasp of spiritual matters

No, its response to when you say scripture isnt at odds with science… becuase if scripture makes a claim, lets take Noah’s ark, and science proves the global flood story is bollocks, then we have a conflict.

If religion stayed in its lane of spirituality then theyd be less issues for it, but it tends often to speak upon things regarding nature and reality, to which science can certainly speak upon.

@Sherlock-Holmes

if you believe there’s no supernatural

I believe there is no good reason to believe that it is true.

@Sherlock-Holmes

Here’s the rub though, the definition of “plausible” is “something that’s consistent with an already held worldview”

Thats not the definition of plausible.

But again, we’re back to sementics.

Plenty of atheists have become theists, and visa versa, they clearly decided what was more plausible to them… no?

@Sherlock-Holmes

You cannot define plausible other than by reference to what you already believe and if you believe there’s no supernatural you will obviously see the supernatural as not plausible, it is just an exercise in conformation bias.

Again, my belief is that i have no good reason to believe in the supernatural.

@Sherlock-Holmes

what process would you use to change your worldview?

I don’t know, but perhaps something that meets the burden of proof of the claim being made in any particular situation.

@Sherlock-Holmes

See, none of this has anything to do with science, absolutely nothing, that’s a lie designed to make us choose between science and God, but there’s no basis for such a choice, there’s no incompatibility at all.

Lunacy.