They concern two different things. Yahweh is a proposed provisional assumption relative to the modal. God or Godel’s “god-like” being is a modal truth. One concerns deity. The other concerns God.
Both unevidenced.
Oh mama, are there are Orks and Elf’s in this fantasy of yours?
Not again, address what you quoted please. This is not a pulpit for you to preach from.
I never said that, straw man.
Address the answer or don’t, but it addressed your request honestly, even if you lack the integrity to reciprocate.
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(1) That’s a provisional unevidenced assumption. (2) God is a proposed modal axiom, not a provisional axiom. Modal axioms and provisional axioms are demonstrated in different ways.
Please be specific. Vagueness isn’t going to help the conversation.
So you admit that there are essential truths and that these truths are of higher order?
When someone talks about demonstrating or proving an axiom, it is time to run away.
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You quoted my post, then ignored what it said, only to respond with an irrelevant preaching non-sequitur. Go back, use the link, address what I said, or don’t, just don’t pretend you’re honestly addressing what I said. It’s beyond tedious, and you keep doing it.
Well there you go, rank dishonesty, followed by a repetition of the same.
Do please stop telling others what they think, what they should think, what they must think, and try thinking a little harder yourself. Your dishonest strident preaching is tedious.
And the argument you cited is generally considered to have failed, you disagree, good for you, next.
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Absolutely. Many Christians don’t seem to comprehend that preaching is not debating. They sorely confuse the two.
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This guy is not, strictly speaking, and probably by self-identification, a Christian. So it seems theists in general have this problem. And it’s no surprise, because when they won’t, and can’t, evidence their claims, hectoring is all they have left.
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The hilarious irony of that statement is off the charts. Just to be clear, Kevin, I’m not laughing at you for saying it. I’m laughing at whatever idiot “government bureaucrat” came up with that statement. “A FLAMEthrower is not a FIREarm.” Ahhhh…. Such is the warped mentality of our government officials. With people like that at the helm, what could possibly go wrong? And people wonder why our system is so fucked up. 
Hey, look on the “bright” side. Anybody with the mentality that believes they absolutely NEED one of those things is more likely to toast himself with it rather than anybody else. (Yes, I used “himself” on purpose, because most females are smart enough to know how ridiculous it would be to own one of those things.)
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i don’t know why you have literally no idea about the culture of one of the world’s biggest religions, followed by 2.6 billion people or more. Everywhere you look, you are more likely to find and talk to a christian. Anyways, prayer before eating isn’t unique to christians. human beings have something in them called Gratitude, and they want someone to thank for what they perceive as blessings. A very large population of humans chooses to direct this Gratitude to a deity.
Is this deity real? It FEELS real to them so that’s enough. Evidence belongs to the objective reality around you. God belongs in you. The part of your brain that generates ideas.
Sure but to be grateful FOR a thing doesn’t in any way imply that you should be obligated to be grateful TO someone unless that person actually provided it. In the case of food, I am grateful to whoever prepared the food, whoever bought it, the chain of suppliers and services that got it to my doorstep, for the existence of the division of labor that, while we are very busy ruining it as we speak, has for a long time provided abundant food and relative ease to one and all.
I’m grateful TO my surgeon FOR repairing my nether regions recently as part of an ongoing project to improve my ability to pee with less difficulty and frequency. I’m not not going to let an imaginary god steal that valor from the person actually responsible. I got through the surgery because of the existence of the computer-controlled technology that enabled the procedure and the medical team that wielded it. I was not going to die or have it bungled because God didn’t tip the scales in my favor. That would involve medical malpractice, not God’s displeasure.
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People can choose who they want to be grateful for, even deities in their minds.
my brother is a medical doctor and he told me at one point
“don’t thank me, thank god, i’m just his instrument”
I don’t think someone would charge him for medical malpractice for believing god is using him as an instrument to help people
People are certainly free to believe / do what they want. My point wasn’t that it would be medical malpractice for a doctor to believe himself to be God’s instrument – but that a botched medical procedure wouldn’t be God’s doing. God doesn’t take responsibility for anything like that anyway, he only gets credit for good outcomes. Great gig he has.
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