Amazing! See there’s all sorts of things like that where we don’t have any real exploration of the possibilities outside of the realm of pseudoscience.
But invisible links like that exist.
I don’t have names for things that aren’t attached to some other very overused meaning.
Did you read my post 57?
I didn’t see 57. Thank you!
That’s why I think there should be more study on the subject and other such phenomenon that has been shocked up to quack science because it hasn’t been understood or just been completely ignored.
Who knows if the feelings that you felt that were mommy protective instincts didn’t have something to do with their emotional well-being not physical. If there were tests on such a thing with all seriousness we could know.
Instead it stays in the realm of supernatural to talk about such things as intuition or “Mommy instincts” when there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong.
What if some of this stuff is not any more supernatural than lactation but just as uncomfortable for people to talk about?
I can’t judge anyone’s journey outside my own. all I can say is I don’t think of myself as more special than anyone else. I know that my son is different and special, but I don’t think it’s a competition.
All I know is when I line myself with doing the right things as they are outlined in the Bible-- things get better. It took a lot to bring myself to trying to do that with an open mind.
I don’t blame anyone for feeling the way they do about things at a particular time. Everybody has their story. I know I have mine. I believe that there can be understanding
The problem is: those phenomenon disappear when tested under controls. Which means you can’t test them; you can’t measure them. If you can’t measure it, it isn’t science. If you can’t measure it, then you are just making shit up.
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I agree, many books are multiple choice. But the bible can offer any explanation. If you support slavery, there are passages to support your position. If you are opposed to slavery, the same applies, I can find passages that oppose slavery.
But in the final tally, when a book presents an almost infinite amount of answers catering to the reader’s anticipation, it is then useless. What good is a guide book when you can derive any answer you desire?
I am a retired electrician, additional to years in high tech and the aerospace industry. Without any exception, all instructions, be it handing of high voltage to precision assembly, all instructions are clear, concise, and not open to interpretation.
Yet this book, supposed to be the thoughts of god and an instruction manual, is vague and ill defined.
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My observation regarding a “god of the gaps” (our human curiosity). When magical thinking fills in the I don’t know it encourages mental laziness.
I am not speaking to having no interest in certain topics and remaining willfully ignorant (of which I have many a topic) - I am speaking to having access to accurate information, yet choosing to ignore or not pursue it.
For example: “why does it rain mommy?”
Answer: “The angels are crying”
“What is lightening and thunder”
Answer: “God is mad, clapping his hands. Pray you don’t die at Armageddon.”
These examples are from my childhood. Other folks have examples that may be similar in the intention from the parent.
A book I was raised to believe was “God’s Holy Word”. It was full of unreal events: talking animals, global flood; HORRIBLE care of humanity…silly rules; gender/racial discrimination and bias; incest; control (highly emphasis); “fear” based “love”…
Setting aside the book, I began to really learn about this earth we live on. Sure my mother knew of “water cycles”, so why lie about it? She did not know why thunder followed lightening (didn’t care to learn). She could not speak the words “I do not know”.
These words “I do not know” I have thoroughly accepted for myself. They are not a judgement of “intelligence” (ie I do not know therefore I am stupid). When I am asked a question, off the top of my head I usually start my answers with a “If I remember correctly…blah, blah blah…” (then look it up, or get them to). “I’m pretty confident in…” is another.
My moral lessons by and large have been taught to me by “Generations” and “Voyager” (my personal favorite).
I can understand why primitive societies made up tales such as lightning coming from the gods upstairs having a wild party. But once we obtain the proper rational and scientific explanation, then those assertions should be categorized as just that, made-up bullshit to explain something not yet known.
ONLY because there were a few that could not accept a magical explanation as satisfying.
They could not quell their curiosity and observations of nature. They’re love for knowledge is appreciated and has been built on to this day.
I respect and remember and honour them for their true contributions to our humanity and species. A respect and contribution earned.
Unlike “human god ideas” whereas the respect and love is demanded through fear.
Not necessarily.
Nor are so called primitive societies necessarily stupid or irrational .Beliefs tend to be logical enough, but just wrong .
I think I’ve mentioned this book before. I do so again because it’s a seminal work;
Witchcraft, Oracles and Magic among the Azande
By: E. E. Evans-Pritchard.
How is Josh speaking linked to anything at all to do with God or gods? Sick people get better all the time and they do this all over the world regardless of race, religious orientation or lack of religious orientation. Even really evil people get better. I do not see any sort of connection to your assertion and the existence of any of the Gods I am aware of. Do you have another version that I have not yet heard of?
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@Cognostic the conversation that caused me to mention Josh at all had to do with miracles and reasons for faith.
Faith-based subjects or the lack of faith-based subjects are deeply personal. By this I mean, I cannot convey the significance of my examples of faith to you. I can only present them to you with my perspective and you can take from it what you will.
What is happening with Josh’s is miracle to me. he didn’t speak more than one or two words sentences till he was 10 years old, and when he did he told me to believe. I consider that a miracle, seeingas I had never introduced matters of Faith to him in our outdoor world is very small.
Everything that is happening in our life right now is a miracle to me. So much has been happening.
Even talking to you all has broadened our future.
I’m going to talk to a neuroscientist again after not trusting for a very long time. Talking to you guys gave me the push I needed to try again with a fresh perspective.
We can all help each other.
We are participating in a dance. Believers say believe. Non-believers say show us the proof. Believers say: here is our proof. Non-believers say: this or that is not true, try harder.
Believers try harder. Non-believers try harder. We grow each other. We all just want to know the truth.
What I think is great about non-believers is that they don’t pretend to know that they know everything, but still value research and critical thinking.
My point is I’m not going to be able to prove God to you. I know that, and I’m not going to try to. Only your own personal perceptions will do that. I can go point for point with you over biblical scriptures and historical events and all that stuff is really interesting and fun for me.
I enjoy correction when it’s done with tact. I invite it. Especially if the other parties have the same perspective of reception. It makes me a better person. And I need to be a better person to raise my children to be better people.
Sorry 
not me. I was raised in “truth”.
I only want to know what is “true or as close to truth as humanly possible”. That requires methodology.
Your perceptions does not create what is true in reality. In your head maybe…
And if in your head you need some link to unreasonable (without “reason” - look up definition it is not an insult) invisible friends to “help” you be a better person … ok. BUT in reality, it’s just you doing it.
I would call them deeply personal and keep them to myself as well if I were fearful of looking completely ignorant. Good move on your part. Sometimes it is best to just let people think you are stupid than it is to open your mouth and prove it. I for one, certainly approve of your choice.
So … basically… you don’t have anything else at all to talk about… right? I mean if everything is deeply personal and secret… um… what in the hell are you doing in a public forum? Does that make any sense at all to you?
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Have you gone barking mad? Are you completely unaware of the fact that ‘personal experience’ is the worst form of evidence? Psych wards all across the nation are loaded with people who are having personal experiences. Buddhists, Hindus, Krishna, Catholics, Taoists, Shaman, Christians, Occult Practitioners of all ilk, Voodooists, and any other belief system you can name, all rely on 'PERSONAL EXPERIENCE." That’s why the “scientific method” was invented.
Science pulled us kicking and screaming out of the world of delusional personal experience and into the light of experimentation, objectivity, independent verification, replication and prediction. No longer are we wallowing in the darkness of “PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.” Personal experience can lead you nowhere without objective and independent verification. Whoever told you to trust your personal experience LIED to you.
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If everything is a miracle, the word miracle has no meaning.
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Exactly one week ago a Formula One driver had a very scary accident. he crashed hard into the guardrail, his car split in two. and there was a massive fire. Somehow, the driver survived the impacts, and managed to get out with just burns to his hands.
I will not display any disturbing images, but one just needs to Google “Grosjean crash” and it will be revealed. Very scary, very disturbing.
It was not a miracle, the car is designed to protect the driver, he wears fireproof clothing, and the track workers are well trained for this kind of emergency.
A “miracle” is a sequence of events a person has no answer for. But there is always answers, you just have to apply critical thinking.
Now there is a copout if ever there was one. I don’t have to explain miracles, “everything is a miracle.” God sitting in the corner while children are raped is a miracle. Babies dying of starvation are miracles. Virus like the Covid 19 is a miracle. Me flapping my gums in the wind and pretending I know what the fuck I am talking about is a fucking miracle. Tim Minchen wrote a song for you Tia. It’s called “Storm.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk A story of a vacuous air head spouting utter and complete nonsense at a dinner party. You should give it a listen, You will probably like it.
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I’ve already determined that with you we pretty much are saying the same thing with different words.
Growing from your environment is a part of biology.
You learn from your environment. We learn from each other. If you are from around the right people with the attitudes it doesn’t matter if your perspectives are different because they will help you to become better people.
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@Cognostic
If I’m barking mad then so is Einstein:
I believe in intuition and inspiration. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.