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In my tradition of sharing my inbox, I am sharing this e-mail.

I am replying with my ‘tirade’ on how my faith is no longer safe with the actions of the Trump Evangelicals and the USCCB.

You guys & gals might have fun with it as well.

Our faith is under attack

A Milwaukee based group called the “Freedom From Religion Foundation” - a sad group of atheist bullies that have a long history of threatening lawsuits against Christians who dare express their faith - are targeting Sheriff Johnny Moats of Polk County for sharing his faith, praying, and having our national motto, “In God We Trust,” on department’s vehicles.

What a farce! SIGN OUR PETITION TODAY TO FIGHT BACK!

Sheriff Johnny Moats of Polk County, GA is a strong Christian who believes that everyone - especially those in prison - should be given the chance to experience the freedom Christ offers to every individual.

For praying with ministries allowed in the prisons to share the Gospel, and for expressing his faith on Facebook in prayers of encouragement, Sheriff Moats has drawn the ire of this Milwaukee-based atheist group. They have sent him a letter and made public statements against him, seeking to browbeat him into silence. They are threatening legal action.

But he is not backing down. He has said he will not change what he is doing, and no action on the part of FFRF will intimidate him. Thank God for such leadership!

We at Frontline Policy Action and Frontline Policy Council are proud to support Sheriff Moats, and, last week, FPC issued a joint statement with Senator Jason Anavitarte to express our gratitude and our eagerness to stand with him. Can we let Sheriff Moats know that you stand with him as well? SIGN THE PETITION!

With Senator Anavitarte rallying local support, we want Sheriff Moats to know that our state still values faith, and we are grateful for leaders like him.

Will you help us show support for Sheriff Johnny Moats, and the true meaning of the First Amendment?

to encourage Sheriff Moats and add your name to the list of Georgia Citizens who don’t want interference from out-of-state bullies!

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Although I’m an atheist, I support the sheriff on this one. “In God We Trust” is the national motto, so it’s appropriate to put it on police vehicles, etc.

What I don’t support, however, is the notion that “In God We Trust” should be the national motto of the U.S. That seems like a direct contravention of the 1st Amendment’s Establishment Clause. We should go back to the de facto motto used prior to the 1950s: E Pluribus Unum. That motto is neutral and doesn’t have religious connotations. That’s what the FFRF should be fighting–the elimination of “In God We Trust” as the official national motto.

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the In God we Trust & the “under God” in the pledge of allegiance were 1950’s Eisenhower ‘godless’ commies additions.

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The “Star Spangled Banner” was not adopted until 1931. The “In god we trust” was not adopted until 1864.

Neither was included or part of the the creation of the USA. One should apply a proper knowledge of history to understand what is “sacred”, and what was what the Founding Fathers accepted and practiced.

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I’m at my limit with religious bullshit today. I need to clear my head.

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Well, thank you for taking the trouble.

What can I say?

Mate this an atheist forum. Many of our members think religion is a boil on the arse of humanity.

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I’m reading the article you wrote now. This issue was already taken before the Supreme Court and it was ruled that the words “In God We Trust” could be put on police vehicles as it was the countries motto. Why would anyone waste time, effort and money, trying to do it all again.

June 11, 1919
The US Supreme Court on Monday rejected a challenge to the motto “In God We Trust” being displayed on American currency.

"The US Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit dismissed Newdow’s case in 2018 because the phrase “does not compel citizens to engage in religion.”

A similar decision was reached by the Fifth Circuit in *Madalyn Murray vs W. Michael Blumenthal which affirmed that the “primary purpose of the slogan was secular.”

I’m not even scratching the surface of the challenges to the slogan. I just know it has been challenged numerous times and the Supreme Court is “not having it.”

Surely there are better fights to be won.

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Just so.

Besides, Madalyn Murray O’Hair did more than her share when she managed to have prayer banned in US public schools for being unconstitutional. I was very impressed when I first learned of that.

Although a non issue here in Oz, I went to only Catholic schools, where school prayer is very pertinent. At my third and final school, there were prayers first thing in morning. I forget exactly which, probably a decade of the rosary. (10 Hail Mary’s and one Our Father.)

On the top left hand side of the class blackboard were the capital letters, of modest size : JMJ (Jesus, Mary and Joseph) on the top right; SJB (St John Baptiste De La Salle, founder of the order which “taught” me)

The cherry on top; On the hour, all day, one of the suck ups got to clap his hands three times, loudly, and then loudly intone: “LET US REMEMBER THAT WE ARE IN THEHOLY PRESENCE OF GODDD!” ( I kid you not)

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I actually need to do a bit more research and reading into this bright young ladies adventure. It seems she had one hell of a life and I really know so little about her. — Off to YouTube I go…

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I would say that if you have “In God We Trust” on your currency, that your god is the currency it is printed on.

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But you all seem to have so much fun when I drop this sort of bull here.

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There’s a film about her, pretty good from what I recall. Though it was some time ago when I watched it.

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And we would expect no less nonsense from you. Par for the day. Good job!

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Perhaps.

From what I can gather, she was a fairly obnoxious person which I think was needed in her mission. Poor woman was murdered in 1995…

At one point she was called “The Most hated woman in America”. She certainly had the fundies get their collective knicker all out of focus.

There’s a bit of stuff on Youtube. Pretty sure there’s a documentary, but I can’t find it.

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I watched the documentaries. She was and it was (obnoxious and needed).

She loved it!

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