Genuine question do atheist believe that Christians are out to get them and are a genuine threat?

I think children are the worse off if they’re so religiously illiterate that they don’t understand the motivations and thinking behind much of Western art and culture through the centuries. They don’t have to be indoctrinated or manipulated to understand the basic ideas behind the major religions and how that has influenced culture, or to understand, say, the original purpose of cathedrals or why they have a particular architecture or how the church motivated the multi-generational projects that constructed them.

I have to admit that, even being steeped in the dogma of a particular Protestant sect as a child, I was fairly ignorant about much of this. I found religious art to be weird, and I had been told the mainline denominations were dead, full of people practicing empty ritual and worshipping idols.

But there’s where the problem would come in, trying to teach comparative religion. If I had come home asking uncomfortable questions about, IDK, the Salem witch trials or the Inquisition or something, at some point my parents probably would have wondered what I was being exposed to or what alien ideas were being inserted into my noggin. It would simply not be worth the hassle for public schools to take on this task in this country.

The only glancing blow my elementary education got in this area was that we were assigned to read the text of Jonathan Edward’s famous sermon, *Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God". Edwards was a fairly batshit sawdust-trail style red-faced preacher of the early colonial era, more batshit than we were but at least the sermon was still about sin and hell and the need for salvation. THAT they could get away with. I literally don’t recall anything else I was exposed to of a remotely religious nature in my public school education.

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They’ve done it before … it was called the dark ages!

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I don’t know about Christians neccesarily being out to “get” atheists, but I have been given a hard time in my healthcare jobs because I don’t profess to be Christian . . . although this hasn’t happened (yet?) with my current nursing job.

There is a belief out there that atheists are not to be trusted, because we–supposedly–don’t have a moral compass if we doubt God’s existence, and if I don’t have a moral compass, then how can I be trusted to take care of vulnerable sick people?

One of my first posts here at Atheist Republic was about the hard time I got at work for suggesting the Sikh Temple as a source of food for unemployed people because the Sikhs are not Christian (this was during the COVID pandemic, when many people were out of work).

The Sikhs have a religious obligation to feed hungry people through a process called Langar, where everyone gets to eat a vegetarian meal regardless of who they are or how they worship.

Later, there was a change in management and a manger heard about this and apologized to me and said he would add the Sikh Temple to the list of food banks.

Yet I was a “bad” person for suggesting this, as the Sikhs aren’t Christian and since I was working for a Christian hospital, I should have “known better.” Also, suggesting the Sikh langar at a Christian hospital means that I “have no common sense.”

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As a final note on ths post, I have become a registered nurse since then, and the simple vegetarian diet of assorted grains, legumes, and vegetable meals offered by the Sikhs is probably a lot healthier for people with diabetes, heart disease, and high blood pressure.

I also imagine that their food is healthier for people suffering from alcoholism and drug addiction, as alcoholics and addicts often have nutritional deficiencies, and vegetarian food is easier to digest.

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This just seems like outright bigotry I don’t understand why Christians can’t just get alone with other walks of life.

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Neither do I. They also used to give a hard time because I did yoga at my desk, as I got stiff during a 12 hour shift. This is because yoga is Satanic.

In fairness to my boss, however, he did make provisions for me to get away from my desk and stretch out.

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Some can, some can’t. In the US, the ones that can’t are about twice as prevalent as in most other Western societies. Hilarity ensues.

As I mentioned in another thread just now, there are a relatively small contingent of Christians who don’t take the Bible all that seriously other than as a sort of vague inspiration emanating from the nice parts of the text that they happen to cherry-pick because they are, or at least aspire to be, empathetic, good, kind people.

Well this turned up right on cue, didn’t it?

Nick Fuentes calls for death penalty for all non-Christians

This is not an isolated case. Several other members of the American Taliban have been ranting in parallel fashion for years.

As far as relevance it says this is from a few years ago. I’m not sure this has gained traction or I at least can’t find evidence on that.

2022 IIRC, and the recent article I looked up said that the ringleader had his case reluctantly dismissed by a judge due to incompetent prosecution, literally missing deadlines and not following court instructions. Makes me wonder if the local DA’s office harbored white supremacist sympathies. However … the leader’s underlings were all convicted, at least, and did various amounts of time and/or paid fines.

December 2023 is recent history. Plus, have you been living under a rock for the past decade? Christofascist hatred has been not merely visible, but vocal and obnoxious throughout that time. Indeed, I have examples dating back to 2007 or thereabouts in my archives if I dig them out.

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Yes, i have no issue with that, albeit i caveat that with that it is frustrating hearing the hypocritical utterings of theists (those in social media) that hammer home the notion that all western culture is built on judeo christian values.

Only then to go into witness protection when critics raise points such as slavery being endorsed withi the bible, or the genocide of the Amalekites and so on…

So with that said, I personally believe that these points should also be put forward in education and religion should not get a free pass from critique.

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Genuine question do atheist believe that Christians are out to get them and are a genuine threat?

No. They’re not a threat.

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Taoists, New Age, Satanists and all other religious people are, in the end, just people.

Yeah sure there are BILLIONS of theists, and their books have verses that could be interpreted as:

For Allah represents vengeance on the infidel and disbelievers
Yaweh will smite the heathen and disbelievers
God will burn the sinner and disbelievers

But does that mean the people who genuinely believe in these verses are a threat?

Nope, not really.

Very few followers are zealous enough to pick up a weapon to actually do the vengeance and smiting and burning themselves.

And when zealots do try to “do god’s work” they end up in prison or hunted by the military.

Mostly theists will just hope their deity would hurt you for them.

The worst thing most of them can do is kick YOU out of their community and disown you like what my family and community did to me when I was young.

My dad once threatened to kill me for being trans but it made me afraid of my dad and not Christians (even if I see some of them do the same thing on the news or the internet).

I think this right here is the seed from which sprang all that we’re dealing with in the US right now.

MAGA wants the Hated Other to be hurt. Whether it’s just “owning the libs” or the pretense of throwing immigrants into gulags, or arresting journalists, they have moved from hope to action much more quickly and unashamedly than even I predicted.

I think it is now self-evidently true that at least authoritarian Christians are “out to get” anyone, including atheists, who fail to conform / submit to their dogma, their god, their ideology. Before they got hold of the reigns of power, it was just fantasy role-playing. Now that shit’s getting real.

it is, the ones in power can finally “embody” or “become” their deity to do something. they just don’t want to publicly announce it in a way that’s very obvious but at the same time undermines the self-image they want to build.

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In a sense, they actually couldn’t be more open, or dare I say, brazen, than they are. They don’t even try to conceal it anymore. But probably in between their ears they find some way to excuse it, I suppose. Similar to how committing genocide and rape are fine so long as God commands it.

I don’t even want to imagine the buzzing flies that are inside their heads, lol.

and to think three years ago, I saw a lot of posts online saying that liberals compromise with fascists.

I’m starting to think everything in The Handmaid’s Tale is starting to happen. Birth rates are plummeting, Women’s autonomy is being taken away, along with extreme Christian beliefs on the rise that are starting to target birth control. Before you know it, we’ll probably become a Theocratic Christo Fascist country that forces women to get pregnant and breed kids. Of course, I have no evidence or data supporting these thoughts.

Only the evidence of your own eyes and ears, lol.

Of course, it could still go any number of ways, or get there via various detours. What I think we can say is beyond debate is that such a state is their ideal and what they strive for, even if a lot of the sheeple aren’t self-aware about it or understand the implications for themselves.

one of the few fantasy elements I thought in that story was that the process to Christo-fascism was too quick; everything else was actually plausible

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It’s definitely a fear that I have based on what some Christians have said on xtian forums and in person.

Mainly their arguments that America was founded on Christianity, that women shouldn’t be able to abort or use birth control, that there shouldn’t be other religions, and oh yes…. forcing Atheists to convert or go to prison or get the dp. Just a lot of fucked up shit I’ve heard over the yrs that contributed to me becoming an angry atheist.

Really, I just hope it doesn’t ever get that bad. Great for them, bad for us if it did happen.