Religion has nothing to do with race. Any race can pick up a religion that conveniences them. Pulling the race card on a religious debate only serves to devalue a person’s argument that religion isn’t toxic or dangerous when it is toxic and dangerous. Islam is a threat to mankind. Islam has started more wars than any other religion. Islam is responsible for far more deaths than any other religion. Not to mention it shits on women and LGBTQ.
If the criteria is their potential for conviction of crimes, then America really needs to criminalize Protestants and Catholics as they comprise roughly 65% of the American inmate population.
Muslims comprise less than 10% of this population. This statistic is misleading as Islam prison conversions account for a significant demographic within this population.
Atheists seem to be either the smartest criminals or the most law abiding as we only make up around .1%
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Nice. I’m stealing this for future debates 
please provide the data you used to arrive at this conclusion.
I said a majority. I never claimed they were ALL dogs. That’d be a No True Scotsman.
I have a whole laundry list and 20 yrs of articles of their bs that pushed to said conclusion. Even when Yahoo chat was a thing, it was blowing up with Muslims blaming us Americans for a war their people started. Recently we had a Muslim member come onto a forum I help operate who was very obnoxious. Anyways, you asked.
I never claimed you did.
None of the links you provided support the conclusion that the majority of adherents of Islam “behave like rabid dogs.”
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It’s an old slang term for violent religious fanatics who are being controlled by Islam. Much to how a dog is being controlled by rabies. Those people don’t have an original thought of their own outside of that control or influence. It’s up there with another word that you told me not to use on here, but it can be found on google.
These is a list of violent things Muslims have done but it doesn’t indicate how (non) mainstream those particular Muslims are, what percentage of the population performs violent acts, nor any perspective on how fundamentalist and/or radicalized a particular source population is.
9/11 for example was a small group of IIRC mostly Wahhabis associated with Saudi Arabia and radicalized by Bin Laden.
What little I know is that about twice as many Muslims on a worldwide basis are fundamentalists compared to Christians, and I see no evidence that is directly because of Muslim dogma. And that most violence driven by Islam comes from extremely impoverished countries dominated by those fundamenatlist sects and my guess is that they are very much like what the US is devolving into: authoritarian regimes who consolidate power over a mostly poor population using fundamentalist religious ideology to manipulate people into compliance and at least outward approval of state activities including state-sponsored violence. Fundamentalism thrives around poverty and ignorance. It his hard to know which causes the other. Likely it cuts both ways.
Indiana Jones said “Nazis – I hate those guys” rather than “I hate Lutherans” or even “I hate Germans”. I think you’re making the “I hate Lutherans” connection when it comes to Muslims when what you really would more productively focus your hate on are authoritarians – in this case, a sort of Islamic version of Nazis. But authoritarians are bad no matter what the backing idological excuses.
I guess I’m saying I have an issue with the Muslims behind those violent acts and those Muslims who excuse of justify those acts.
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Just like Germany during Hitler and the United States during slavery…something like that?
Collective complicity is neither secular or non-secular. It’s just humans being humans and regarding their allegiance to a group as more important than their kosmopolitē allegiance.
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Yeah, I just hate it when humans are cruel to each other. I’m for world peace and don’t like religions or political groups that are all for genocide and war.
“Exclusion is always dangerous. Inclusion is the only safety if we are to have a peaceful world.” – Pearl S. Buck
And therein lies the rub. When opposition supersedes inclusion you have already set the stage for conflict. Once it becomes intractable then world peace is reduced to a conversation piece.
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everyone is a criminal imo
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does that mean my neighbor next door is a rabid dog? I thought she’s just a shopkeeper down the street. I’ve always thought the bible-thumping christian dude downstairs in my apartment is the more not-so-moderate one.
A majority is a lot. Like, everywhere you look, you are more likely to see someone part of that majority. If you deny that, it means it’s not a majority.
good news, the bible agrees with you. just check out Romans 3:23
Pearl grew up in a little Methodist church her father pastored that’s within walking distance of my house. Philosophically she roughly fit the mold of mainline liberal Christian denominational Christianity and I’d argue she was the best examplar of that ilk. This allows history to see her as a “humanitarian” more than a missionary. It’s the “happy path” for Christianity (in software development, the happy path is basically the expected way users will utilize software rather than the ways they tend to abuse and undermine it, even without meaning to. I tend to regard religion as a form of human software where even when constructed by a well-meaning actor, lacks security safeguards or error handling).
Does she excuse her fellow Muslims fanatics for blowing up towers and reigning hell on non Muslim believers? Have you asked her? And have you asked her about this?
Chapter 9, verse 68 states: “Allah has promised the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers an everlasting stay in the Fire of Hell—it is sufficient for them. Allah has condemned them, and they will suffer a never-ending punishment.”
To be honest, I find the idea of someone taking comfort in someone else being tortured in a fiery dungeon after death is really screwed up. I’ve always thought it should be unacceptable. Let alone murdering people or supporting a religion that is okay with murdering people just because they don’t believe in said religion. I’ve had plenty of arguments with Muslims online who pretty much excused or dismissed debate questions on 9/11, like they didn’t give a shit what their fellow believers did. And I’m like okay, you’re just as bad as they are.
How much writhing and gnashing of teeth are you experiencing for the actions of Mao Zedong? Do you feel a sense of contrition over the deeds of Joseph Stalin?
Between the pair of these atheists 65-120 million people died. By comparison, 2996 people, including the hijackers perished on 9/11.
Perspective is.
Only if he is on a chain and barking at you while foaming at the mouth. Otherwise, he’s just your neighbor.
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