DNA .... the atheist's kryptonite

Yes, Doyle. Sherlock, those are both common names. I’ve not heard the expression ‘old fruit.’ (I know 'Forbidden Fruit, Low Having Fruit, and Cherry Picking.) Any of those match up. Anyway… the response is yes. Just because an answer is the only remaining answer, does not give it any additional validity. It still needs to be demonstrated. This is true even if it is the best possible answer we could possibly think of at any point in time. Without the evidence backing it… we must claim… “I don’t know.” or just be honest and say, ‘This is the best answer we have at the time, but more evidence is needed?’ LOL - as I wrote that last line, the conclusion of most science studies raced through my mind. Isn’t this how most of them end?

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Noun old fruit ( plural old fruits ) ( Britain, slang, dated, sometimes as a term of address) An old friend; an old chap.

It is very dated but then…so am !!

Note that calling somebody just a ‘fruit’ has an entirely different meaning and would or should get you banned from here in a trice.

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I wouldn’t even chance ‘Old Fruit’ in the USA. The morality police are always looking for someone to yell at.

After reading another of Lucy’s posts

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It was explained that Doyle actually believed, and used this fallacy. He was a bit of a fruitcake. It was called Doyle’s fallacy due to his own eccentric belief in fairies. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the mastermind behind the most famous and rational detective ever, had an extraordinary fascination for the spiritist world.

Doyle was very lucky and died with the firm belief that the Cottingley fairies were real.

Here is an example of Doyle’s logic as he shifts the burden of proof onto science to disprove his delusions.

There is nothing scientifically impossible, so far as I can see, in some people seeing things that are invisible to others. Victorian science would have left the world hard and clean and bare, like a landscape in the moon. One or two consequences are obvious. The experiences of children will be taken more seriously. Cameras will be forthcoming. Other well- authenticated cases will come along. These little folk who appear to be our neighbors, with only some small difference of vibration to separate us, will become familiar. Um… Yeah, sure! I’m not convinced.

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I think your problem here is that you accept bots are more intelligent than you (which I guess they are).

Not playing with the kiddies any more. Try to come up with something that doesn’t make you look dumb (but try it on someone else).

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What a great put down. Wow! That really put Sheldon in his place. I mean, you could have told him that everyone who ever loved him was wrong. You could have told him that you lost your box of crayons and so have no way to explain things to him. You might have told him that his birth certificate was an apology letter from the condom factory. But no… you went ‘dumb.’ That’s just ‘DUMB,’ and not very entertaining. This is after all a public forum. Your lack of imagination obviously does not extend into your ability to fling insults. I am sure you are wasting your time on this site and depriving some needy village of an idiot.

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Congrats on yet another stupid comment.

Doyle (not Doyl). However, I’ll give you one tick. I should have made it specific to abiogenesis. Please feel free to list some other possible theories for life on earth (which are not based on fantasy, delusion or the type of story anyone could sit down and make up in half an hour like for example Deism).

Yes I imagine most bots today could kick your ass.

Stopped playing with you. You’re just too dumb.

Yes, way to go to prove you are still as dumb as your answers. Was that supposed to mean anything? If it was, it didn’t, other that your level of irational thought and deranged comment leads me to conclude, you need help.

It is truly amazing you would admit a “village idiot” can defeat you every time. Unless of course you can demonstrate anything you have said has defeated me.

As for insults, apparently your memory is so pathetically poor, you can’t recall you were the first to turn to insults.

But, let me prove to you who is the actual village idiot by ceasing to respond to your deranged ramblings. You’ve proved you have nothing to offer and I accpet it.

The answer to the origin of life remains unknown, but here are scientists best bets.
Do your own research.

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There you go again, using that great imagination of yours. Drawing connections between things where no connection exists. That’s the spirit. Stick to what you do best. You’re

You just don’t get it do you. The village idiot defeats everyone. That’s ‘WHY’ they are the village idiot. They ‘KNOW’ they are right and everyone they speak with is wrong. No matter how many impossible things they believe before breakfast.

LOL… after you have responded. That’s a good one. Hey! No one noticed the utter and complete absurdity in your comment. You just keep going on as if you never made it. Have a lollipop, and thanks for playing.

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This clown really has a high opinion of himself, yet hasn’t done anything except waste a lot of time talking down to all of us. How’s the view from up there?
I’d bet he’s single, and hasn’t seen a naked woman in person.

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He has to say something that is not fallacious and full of holes before he can talk down to anyone. What he is doing is blathering on about his pet hypothesis. And then pretending that they will all come to fruition at some point. Everything is about to change. (The time to believe anything is after it has been demonstrated.)

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Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, not having any contrary evidence or explanation is not evidence for a claim, like your hyperbolic claim about abiogenesis.

That redundant full stop is simply hilarious, kudos for that. This was meant as irony right?

It was meant as irony, except @Cognostic was using it quite deliberately, whereas yours was clearly unintentional, though no less hilarious for that to be fair.

Hubris…and again, misplaced.

Oh I think you’ve done that, in spades, for example the redundant but at the start of a new paragraph and sentence, is again simply hilarious irony in the context the claim.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this…

I know, there will come a point where it is simply like kicking puppy, but not yet I feel. :innocent:

I’m an ATHEIST. Kicking puppies, boiling babies, and picking on the ignorant are all things I live for.

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What about kicking puppies with a facile grasp of language and especially debate, and the kind of inflated ego that constantly exudes hubris that screams “Dunning-Kruger effect”?

It’s hard not to kick it I suppose. Everytime Lucy uses words like winner and loser I am seeing this level of self awareness:

Poor Cog. Oh, ye of little faith. You still haven’t figured it out yet, have you? One must believe FIRST before one can finally see the truth. As @Lucifer has been so patiently trying to tell you, it will be impossible for you and others to see the FACTS he is revealing UNLESS you first start believing those facts are true. Until that time, you will remain blind to the truth and wandering lost in your ignorance.

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You boil your babies before you eat them?

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Yes, yes, “If I believe they will come.”

Only the tough ones. You know, the ones that fight back. If they just lie there and shut up, a couple slices off bread, mayo, and a tomato wedge are all I need. Yea, I know! Mayo on babies! Most people prefer ketchup. It’s a filthy habit I picked up in France.

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WRONG, you mangy knuckle dragger! It’s, “If you BUILD IT, they will come.” Geeeez… No wonder there’s no hope for you. I swear I don’t know how Lucy maintains his composure so well when dealing with you.

@Lucifer Dude, I just want you to know I think you have the patience of a Saint. It’s amazing how you handle Cog and Shelly as well as you do. Keep at 'em, tiger! :+1: