I’ve never had the patience to get into long debates with those people. Many will openly admit, and seem proud of the fact, that nothing will change their minds. Then they call us close minded. I would sure change my mind if I just had some &)%$* evidence. Ken Ham in his debate with Bill Nye said that nothing would change his mind, while Nye said evidence to the contrary would change his. I’ve heard one person say that was the the turning point for him and when he seriously started questioning his beliefs, so I guess debating apologist isn’t a complete waste of time. It can sure feel that way sometimes though.