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You People are damn funny!

Penrose is an interesting man, his hypothesis on information conservation within black holes stretches my imagination. Perhaps others can see more in his white boards of mathematics then I can, I only know Hawkins was able to verbalize what his mathematics told us in a way I understood as far as my background allows.

I’ve read Penrose believes the Universe has a purpose, can’t say that has any ring of truth to me. I see the Universe as a random event driven by those gravitational, nuclear and chemical processes which act under the influence of time and entropy.

One of the most interesting things I’ve read recently is that gravity is an expression of mater moving toward slower time, right up to a black hole where time stops.

So one steeped in the Penrose would think that we should all find a way to jump into a black hole, where our information would be plastered on its inside surface for Trillions and Trillions of years…

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See, this is where you went astray. Of course it matters. By leaving out commas you changed the meaning from the fact that his license had been suspended with a coat hanger. There it was, hanging high.
So actually what you really meant was that you ran to the fucking doctor, whose license had been suspended with a coat hanger, for doing cruel things to animals. Why you would patronize such a terrible person speaks volumes.

Rather oddly specific question. Well, not a 6-inch, but I have had a Celestron telescope inserted for diagnostic purposes only. No passing out, only ass-teroids everywhere.

Oh there are no small miracles grasshopper.

I can neither confirm nor deny that I was anywhere near or far from the heretofore described event.

Oh you foolish child. That was not your intestines but rather the vitriolic bile and sinful aggregations so prominent in you deniers of the word.

Again, you are lying. You know you enjoyed the thought of blood slurping, and given the surrounding events, it was a rather entertaining evening overall, don’t you think?

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Did he just call me a “People”
Hey. Fuck You Buddy! You can kiss my ass! Your nothing but a Mark on my underwear. (Sorry, am I hallucinating again?)

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Penrose is a fucking idiot and needs to stick to something he is good at.
" In a series of breakthrough papers, theoretical physicists have come tantalizingly close to resolving the that has entranced and bedeviled them for nearly 50 years. Information, they now say with confidence, does escape a black hole. If you jump into one, you will not be gone for good."

A Penrose diagram of a black hole that forms, and then completely evaporates away due to Hawking radiation. This illustrates the black hole information paradox. By Raidr – Own work, Public Domain.

If a Black Hole evaporates completely, information stored inside it would be deleted forever.

Hence, the information won’t be conserved anymore – the information loss paradox.

To solve this problem, some scientists assumed that the information stored inside the Black Hole will escape through Hawking radiation.

Professor Stephen Hawking denied this idea as the No-hair theorem suggests that a Black Hole has only three independent fundamental properties, i.e., mass, charge, and angular momentum.

Hence, the properties of radiation coming out should be independent of information stored inside a Black Hole.

With that being said, information inside the Blackhole will find no way outside and will be lost with Black Hole (report card execution hopes still alive?).

This triggered war among Physicists which is famously known as Thorne–Hawking–Preskill bet (Although they were good friends).

But later Hawking conceded the bet and admitted that radiation must leak out the information inside the Black Hole somehow (shattering hopes blames on Hawking).

In July 2004, Stephen Hawking published a paper in which he described that quantum permutation may allow the information to leak out of a Black Hole through Quantum tunneling, but this explanation was too abstract to be tested.

At this point, Stephen Hawking accepted that Information must escape from a Black Hole, and hence, he lost his bet.

This problem is now more than 40 years old and in the meantime, many physicists came up with many solutions but still, there is no solution on which everyone would agree.

Let’s have a look at these available solutions –

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He was my sister in a past life. (That should explain everything.)

FUCK! I gotta quit saying that then!

So… I’m clean now? I don’t have to feel guilty when I masturbate to wildlife animal road kill bondage porn? I have been cleansed? I feel so free.

Look, I was seriously concerned. I only stopped on the way to the hospital onece to write my name in the snow… well… okay… twice. I did write a quick note to Tin Man as well. (This is the point where I generally go to ‘paint’ and create a snowy blood note, but I am tired and don’t have the time. ) Tin will have to tell you what the note said. I will admit that I apologized for wishing him dead and lusting after his foul mouthed wife. I also apologized for stealing his nuts. I have them in a bowl at home. I don’t know how he has been keeping things together without them. But that’s it. I promise. I didn’t write another word. Whoever wrote “Skriten Burn In Hell,” wasn’t me. They must have stolen some of the magic blood and copied my handwriting. Think about it. Why would I ever say such a thing? I’m an Atheist. I don’t believe in Hell…Old Man may be trying to frame me again. He does that from time to time.

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Clean? CLEAN? There is no clean where you are concerned. Any filth that is removed is immediately replaced by the putrid and revolting detritus which is so prominent in your disgusting self. That feeling of “free” is just your denial taking even greater control of your deluded thought processes.

Wow, much like Herman Goering when he “apologized” by saying “my bad”. Real sincere, I’m sure.
Stealing a man’s nuts, that’s just disturbing, even a Tin-Man’s.
Finishing your diatribe with a blatant unfounded accusation directed at a demonstrably “innocent” bystander is, well, sad and pathetic, as well as admirable in a personally satisfying way.

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DAMN! So, nothing change!

I feel validated!

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Have you considered a new handle, brigadier obvious would be my suggestion.

As when I was a child: please mark the harry spot as you’re all harry ass.

This place is a joke, prove me wrong.

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So THAT’S where they are! Fuck! Ya know, I can appreciate a good joke just like anybody else. I have a great sense of humor. But - DAMN - did you really have to take the two nuts that keep my bottom chassis cover in place? Those are custom-designed and sized. Can’t just get replacements at the hardware store. Been walking around all this time with wire coathanger pieces rigged in place. It’s embarrassing.

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Maybe. Maybe not. Hard to say. Even if it is, though, you have to admit the jokes aren’t even all that funny.

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Please qualify. Which place? Are you speaking of the place from which you are communicating? Perhaps you are referring to the psychological “place” you are in at this time, which might indeed be a joke. How can you conflate the activities contained within, with the identification of the place? The place cannot be a joke. The place may contain jokes. The place may harbor jokesters. The place may even qualify as the butt of a joke, but it cannot BE a joke. Jokes are meant to be funny. There is nothing but seriousness taking place here, if indeed this place is to what you are referencing.

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Interesting, the term “this place” is confusing to you. How can I help you understand?

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In all fairness, Skrit has a point. I mean, it can sometimes be easy to get this place mixed up with that place. Or, hell, even with some other place. For instance, this place could really be just about any place, unless - of course - this place somehow got misplaced in another place. Which just goes to show that placement is critical when placing a place some place.

Edit to add: I feel I should point out how serious we are here about putting things in their proper place, just as long as it is a designated place for proper things.

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Who’s on first?

What?

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I will easily "prove’ you wrong as soon as you can operationalize your data. Or are you perhaps asking for ‘evidence’ that you are wrong?

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I think our friend 'Mark" is confessing that he does not know how to read between the banana peels or find the clarity among the nuts and bolts of a comment. I don’t know what the fuck a ‘Skriten’ is so I’m not about to attemps an analogy with that, and since I have never heard the word before and assume is some made up bullshit like 'Cognostic," I’m not even going to google it. Mark is just confused.

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You know, it is breathtakingly startling that you find it necessary to lash out just because you are bereft of the obvious information. “Since I don’t know, I will assume some horseshit”( or rather bullshit). .Argumentum ad ignorantiam. Ever heard of it? Keep that shit up and you will. If you dare to try to google me I will slap the hair off of you.
Mark may be confused, or corn-fused, or just another of you rhetorical jackasses just trying to see if you can get me going. Good luck. My wife has been at that shit for probably longer than Mark has been alive…

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Clearly locating the location of the proper placement of the proper things, places properties in place of the location by placing designated places as a locale for the proper place to be located.

Side note: please refrain from mentioning my “point”. Most people have the requisite couth to pretend it is not there.

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You should never be ashamed of your point, Skrit. It is unique, therefore it is beautful. It is part of what makes you who you are. Hold your head high and wear it with pride!

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Well I have mixed feelings here…I wonder if I am not just being trolled to expose myself to endless ridicule and shaming. I have seen this bus go by before and the last time a kid on the bus threw a jar of piss on me.

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Well, if it helps to ease your mind a bit, Cog no longer throws piss. He did at one time long ago. But then he switched to throwing poo when he realized he could get longer effective range with it. So you do not have to worry about anybody here throwing piss at you.